Price of Lead Shot

[coloradoclyde]

I'll bet he can't....

 

[coloradoclyde]

So how many of those helpless victims of lead savagery moved there after the smelter existed? You move next to a known hazard,(assumption) (I believe you said lead has been known to be dangerously toxic for over 100 years),you reap the rewards, Darwinian.

Something you may not have considered, is the most mines today have to be bonded and have a reclamation plan.
This way the fine citizens and taxpayers of an affected area aren't subjected to a festering toxic hole that ends up becoming a superfund site costing taxpayers millions to cleanup.

 

[TNGhost]

Do you know that you can use the backspace or left/click delete keys to remove some of the quoted post?
Instead of quoting a guy's full post,, why not juts select the sentence or phrase you you are responding too?

I prefer not to edit other peoples thoughts and words, nor insert mine upon theirs, Pravda propaganda style.

 

[TNGhost]

why is lead mine production in the U.S. increasing? There is no smelter. Where is the ore going?

I thought you had common sense?
Lead ore is going to the same place corn, beans, cotton and many other commodities are going.
Ain't here in the USA, I'll let you figure out the rest,, :wink:

Yes that would be obvious, but I was looking for an industry insider's take on it and its effect on lead prices, what this thread was about, right, or was it internet egos :hmm: ???

Your post does bring up another moral dilemma though, is it allright to create an evironmental cesspool to get what you need, so long as it is in a backwater third world state, ie. not your backyard :shocked2: . (Or was that my backyard?)

 

[TNGhost]

Sticks and stones boys, sticks and stones...... :rotf:

 

[necchi]

Well now, you seem to have stumbled across a world economic issue haven't ya?
We have all these sanctions in place to save the environment from the evils of mankind's industrial production,,
But other countries don't have to follow our rules do they? If you haven't figured it out yet, it's been the bane of the American work force for decades.

 

[coloradoclyde]

Yes that would be obvious, but I was looking for an industry insider's take on it and its effect on lead prices, what this thread was about, right, or was it internet egos ???

Your post does bring up another moral dilemma though, is it allright to create an evironmental cesspool to get what you need, so long as it is in a backwater third world state, ie. not your backyard . (Or was that my backyard?)

The only ego is see is yours, looking for a conspiracy where there is none.

No! polluting third world countries is not morally right. Doe Run shut down its Peru facility due to pollution before Herculaneum.
China and India are also Trying to crack down on pollution. Corruption of politicians and lack of regulations in those countries is hampering progress.

I think you are forgetting that lead usage is not a problem.....Lead pollution is.

 

[TNGhost]

How many decades?

 

[coloradoclyde]

it's been the bane of the American work force for decades.

I'm starting to think he works for Bane, in the propaganda dept.

 

[TNGhost]

Yes that would be obvious, but I was looking for an industry insider's take on it and its effect on lead prices, what this thread was about, right, or was it internet egos ???

Your post does bring up another moral dilemma though, is it allright to create an evironmental cesspool to get what you need, so long as it is in a backwater third world state, ie. not your backyard . (Or was that my backyard?)

The only ego is see is yours, looking for a conspiracy where there is none.

No! polluting third world countries is not morally right. Doe Run shut down its Peru facility due to pollution before Herculaneum.
China and India are also Trying to crack down on pollution. Corruption of politicians and lack of regulations in those countries is hampering progress.

I think you are forgetting that lead usage is not a problem.....Lead pollution is.

Only one conspiracy, the same one perplexing mankind since we arose, those who compel others to do their bidding for fun, profit or self satisfaction.

Corrupt politicians and over regulation is what's hampering progress(and lead prices) in our country :hmm: .

:hmm: Lead usage vs. pollution, so... as long as the ball remains in my gun, alls good, but commence to firing and spraying lead all around the countryside, not so good.

Best, I guess, to nail the varmints with the buttstock....better for the environment. :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:

 

[coloradoclyde]

those who compel others to do their bidding for fun, profit or self satisfaction.

I can tell you get a lot of satisfaction and fun out of your job.....
How much are they paying you?....I might be looking to upgrade.

It's obvious you don't want to discuss the issue, all you want to do is ... Distract, Debate , Derail, Deny, Disrepute, Disavow and Distrust.

 

[TNGhost]

those who compel others to do their bidding for fun, profit or self satisfaction.

I can tell you get a lot of satisfaction and fun out of your job.....
How much are they paying you?....I might be looking to upgrade.

It's obvious you don't want to discuss the issue, all you want to do is ... Distract, Debate , Derail, Deny, Disrepute, Disavow and Distrust.

It's not Bane, its spelled Baine, B-A-I-N-E, goes by the name of Noaa.

Can't have a discussion about communism with a communist, its like discussing religion, a non-starter.

As far as lead prices, I think we've covered the ground and all could agree that government regulation played a role in our higher prices.

HLV

 

[coloradoclyde]

Here is an excerpt from a wall street article back in April.

Explaining one reason why lead priced remain high.

One signal that traders are worried about supplies is the recent decline in available metal at LME warehouses. Owners of lead held in those warehouses have set aside about 100,300 metric tons, leaving the proportion of metal available for trade at 52%, compared with 95% three weeks ago.

The price is being supported by restricting the market supply. Wall Street not the Govt.

 

[TNGhost]

What, no references, links or dates?

That aside, I think you've got it, its those evil, greedy capitalist bankers that are responsable for high lead prices and us having to pay more and work harder to enjoy our hobby. :wink:

All's said and done though, I'd rather suffer the evil's of capitalism, much easier to deal with than the dead end of communism. :barf:

Capitalists just know what's best for themselves and seek to empty your wallet to get it, easy. I can deal with it. :idunno:

Communists know what's best for everybody, and will shackle mind, body and soul to get there. Not so easy to deal with. :nono:

At least with capitalists we'll have lead to shoot, even if the prices are high at times. :haha:

With communists, we'd probably have to resort to shooting something like steel ball bearings :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: , until they decided we didn't need those either. :hmm:

HLV b

 

[coloradoclyde]

What, no references, links or dates?




All's said and done though, I'd rather suffer the evil's of capitalism, much easier to deal with than the dead end of communism.

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct...U3nh5lc0CAxFwF1jw&sig2=uwKAQ4clmUKVqKxdhAvLYg




Been to China lately?

 

[TNGhost]

Nope, but if I get the yen to visit, I'll look you up. :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:

Heard lead prices were on their way down there.

HLV

 

[coloradoclyde]

Here's something for you to reminisce on.

[youtube]6HhdkkdsvTM[/youtube]

 

[RonRC]

Great, old video Colorado Clyde!
And that article about how the commodity brokers can control supply and pricing was excellent and good for me to see!
Thanks,
Ron