Question about Target

[John Shortell]

What is the official muzzleloader target for off hand @ 50 yards, and is there a printable file available?

 

[necchi]

The NMLRA 50yrd target used typicaly is the 6-Bull
And they have the rights locked up pretty good,so no download printable is available,,you can Buy them. Or make one,

X ring-- .39 inches
10 ring- .89 "
9 ring--1.89 "
8 ring--2.89 "
7 ring--3.89 "
6 ring--4.89 "
5 ring--5.89 inches
all measurements quoted from da "Book"

The full 6 bull sheet is pretty big, something like 17x22

 

If you can get one, it can be printed onto a ledger size piece of paper. If you use it yourself and don't go to selling any they probably wouldn't give a hoot.
Mark :idunno:

 

[chapmans]

Actually that target is shot more on the bench line @ 50 yds, the same target, only 7 ring black, is shot at 50 yds off hand in some aggs, the most common 50 yd oh target is the 100yd single bull 8 ring black,next is the 3 bull, the single bull 7 ring black is shot at 100 yds. This is at Friendship, local matches may vary.
regards, Steve Chapman

 

[necchi]

Thank you, my RO certificate expired.

 

[John Shortell]

Thanks all. I can whip up some on my computer.

 

[John Shortell]

If anyone wants a pdf file shoot me an email and I'll send it to you. I made one up.

 

[R.M.]

http://www.pistoleer.com/targets/muzzleloading/

 

[necchi]

If anyone wants a pdf file shoot me an email and I'll send it to you. I made one up.

I'll bite, let's see what ya came up with,
e-mail sent,

 

[roundball]

What is the official muzzleloader target for off hand @ 50 yards, and is there a printable file available?

Just as FYI for a possible alternative especially if you shoot a lot...if you don't "need" official targets for some particular reason, the cheapest big stacks of 9" paper plates from Kmart / Walmart make excellent general purpose targets for informal practice at the range.
Even if you add a colored aim point sticker bought on rolls from office supple places, the average cost per target is something like 2 cents each

 

[MikeChapin]

Actually there are two. The one Necci showed and a large bull with 8 ring black. A typical aggregate has a 6 bull at 25 yards, a six bull at 50 yards, a large bull at 50 yards and a large bull at 100 yards.

For 50 yard practice I use any target with a 3" black that I can find at the store. I do like the 3" Shoot-N-See on a piece of 8x11 paper. With my older eyes I can see hits in the black without having to get out the scope.

 

[longcruise]

Here is a link to a target company that prints ML targets. All of them are illustrated on their site.

Targets

 

[George]

Dixie Gun Works has them, $8.50/100 pack.
http://www.dixiegunworks.com/product_info.php?products_id=7796

Spence

 

[Dave Rosenthal]

What is the official muzzleloader target for off hand @ 50 yards, and is there a printable file available?

Depends upon whether or not you're at an "Official Match" of the NMLRA or run with NMLRA targets/rules. One of the three clubs that I belong to does the NRA Qualification for muzzleloaders, using the B-19 Target at 25, 50, and 100 yards. A regular match uses the B-6 at 50 yards and the SR-1 at 100 yards.

As long as everyone uses the same target, it doesn't much matter. Practice for a specific competition/event/distance should always be done on the targets that get used AT THAT COMPETITION!

Since "Official Targets" are copyrighted, I PURCHASE them since I'm not looking for "cheap".

Dave
NRA Distinguished Expert in ML Rifle

 

[necchi]

Smokin,
not to diminish your ranking and achievment, nor to put down the NMLRA at all, but doesn't achieving any certification by the NMLRA just amount to plunking down the money for Targets shot ?
You need X amount of points for X ranking, the points are accumulative. It's a matter of being sure your name is on the list so points can accrue.
The HUGE benifit is it does take alot of shooting and alot of practice. Afterall it is practice and time at the range/shooting too become good and/or a better more proficant shooter.

I was involved here in MN for a few years, got my RO and helped. But the "eliteist" attitude of the local Officers group didn't appeal to me. It was all about the high end custom guns and money.

 

[Jim/OH]

necchi,
no, not in the NMLRA at least. To upgrade your ranking in classification at the NMLRA, you must shoot a certain total score in a qualifying aggragate. It is not how many targets you buy that accumulate points - they do not. You must shoot an aggragate match, consisting of a 25, two 50, and one 100 yd. match. The total score of that match determins if you move up in classification of not. :thumbsup:

Hope this helps, see ya, Jim/OH :hatsoff:

 

[Dave Rosenthal]

Smokin,
not to diminish your ranking and achievment, nor to put down the NMLRA at all, but doesn't achieving any certification by the NMLRA just amount to plunking down the money for Targets shot ?
You need X amount of points for X ranking, the points are accumulative. It's a matter of being sure your name is on the list so points can accrue.
The HUGE benifit is it does take alot of shooting and alot of practice. Afterall it is practice and time at the range/shooting too become good and/or a better more proficant shooter.

I was involved here in MN for a few years, got my RO and helped. But the "eliteist" attitude of the local Officers group didn't appeal to me. It was all about the high end custom guns and money.

Necchi,

I went through the Qualification Program with the NRA, not the NMLRA. None of the points are cumulative, and you start from ZERO every time you attempt to do a set of targets for Qualification. Yes, the advancing ranks require higher and higher scores. But the last set of targets that you shoot doesn't count, so a mediocre shooter never gets the chance to earn the higher ranks! Difference is the way our Club's Black Powder League Chairman runs the Program, a participant doesn't pay a dime for anything until they first earn the Pro-Marksman & Marksman ranks. Then you receive an arm patch, a pin, rocker patch & certificate for each of the two ranks that you just earned, all for only $17.00 which is his cost from the NRA Store! You shoot as many targets as you need to for FREE in order to obtain those first two ranks and ALL of the rest as well! When you score high enough on two complete targets to earn the next higher rank, the League Chairman asks for just $5.00 to cover the cost of the pin & rocker patch & certificate for what you just earned. But if it takes you just one month, or almost an entire year (as it did for me when I finally made Distinguished Expert), in the meantime, you pay NOTHING and get to shoot for free with a bunch of GREAT folks, all the while getting to experience what good chop-busters can do to help you along the way, like loan you powder or ball if you forgot your bag at home . The League sponsors (pays for the B-19 Targets) the Qualification Matches, which are held on an additional day, two weeks apart from our regular League Match. So all it costs to do an attempt is powder & ball and the gas to drive there!

I rather think that you'd really enjoy the camaraderie we have here in Joisey, as from reading your posts, you sound like a fair-minded, experienced and very safe shooter that would fit right in with our easy-going, chop-bustin' we don't care what you're shottin' or what it costs bunch of guys & gals. Mentoring new shooters is always appreciated and there isn't a snob in the bunch! I shoot all of my guns "out-of-the-box", as do most of the other League members, except for those that want to try to build one from a kit or a pile of parts. And IF they do build one, they pride themselves on it's ability to light-off a main charge every hammer drop, not whether or not the lock is from a fancy high-end maker (which they're NOT). Yesterday's Blanket Shoot was no exception: First & Second place in the rifle portion of the Match were taken by guys shooting "out-of-the-box" .50 cal percussion Lyman Trade Rifles. I came in second and so got to pick second off of the blanket .

I'm real sorry that the bunch that you hung-out with left a bad taste in your mouth with regards to Qualification Matches. The League Chairman is having the entire League over his house on Saturday the 18th, for the annual Holiday Pot-Luck Supper. If you're in the area, we'd love to show you some Joisey hospitality.

All the best!

Dave

 

[John Shortell]

Do you folks use adjustable sights on your rifles or do you use fixed sights zeroed to a specific distance and adjust your aim at other distances? Also do you shoot using a target sight picture where the black sits atop the front sight blade or do you shoot point of aim?

 

[hoochiepapa]

Replies are going to be all over the board. I have fixed sights and for my .54, it is sighted at 100 yards. I know I can be lethal at any range in between.
On my .32, I also have fixed sights, sighted for 25 yards. I feel confident out to 50.
The way I was taught to shoot at a target was to put the black right at the top of my front sight.

 

[Dave Rosenthal]

Do you folks use adjustable sights on your rifles or do you use fixed sights zeroed to a specific distance and adjust your aim at other distances? Also do you shoot using a target sight picture where the black sits atop the front sight blade or do you shoot point of aim?

I can only speak for myself. I use the primitive sights that are only drift adjustable for windage. Set them with a block of soft pine and a hammer when I first got the rifle. I use Kentucky Windage & Elevation with fixed open sights, while others use fully adjustable sights. I use a twelve o'clock hold at 50 yards and the 370 grain Maxi-Balls drop right into the ten ring of a B-6 Target. For PRB I aim a little lower, just into the black bull. At 25 yards, I'm dead-on, cutting playing cards and strings & such. At 100 yards, I pick a hold-over point of about 6" and the balls drop deep into the black. Knowing your rifle and getting repeatable results are what wins competitions.

Other folks like to mess with adjustable sights. Some even use peeps, but I don't mind at all. Since I pull the barrel for every cleaning, I enjoy never having to re-align my spring-loaded adjustable sight after it gets bumped and pressed upon when I turn the barrel to clean & dry it. Just one less thing to worry about

I like to overcome obstacles. For me, using the primitive sight makes winning or placing more fun. So depending upon the distance and the charge, I can vary my approach to the situation.

Hope this answers your questions.

Dave