Ramrod stuck in barrel blues

[ihuntsnook]

The goop that comes out of the barrel after each shot appears damp and greasy. As to pointing my barrel at the ground to clear the bore with a cap, or to shake out crud, it seems pretty safe to me. Sorry if you find it annoying. As I'm sure we won't be sharing the same facility any time soon, it shouldn't be a problem.

 

[Rifleman1776]

The goop that comes out of the barrel after each shot appears damp and greasy. As to pointing my barrel at the ground to clear the bore with a cap, or to shake out crud, it seems pretty safe to me. Sorry if you find it annoying. As I'm sure we won't be sharing the same facility any time soon, it shouldn't be a problem.

Not annoying. Unsafe to point a muzzle in any direction except up when you are on a range. It is a violation of NMLRA and most range rules. I see muzzles pointing any direction except up I report to the range officer.

 

[ihuntsnook]

Have only been in this game for 40 years. See many, many shooters discharging caps into grass before loading. I will inform them all they have been doing it wrong for all those years. Thanks for the heads up.

 

[Rifleman1776]

Have only been in this game for 40 years. See many, many shooters discharging caps into grass before loading. I will inform them all they have been doing it wrong for all those years. Thanks for the heads up.

I will refrain from characterizing your response.
Almost all perc shooters to that. Once the range is declared "hot" and the shooters are at the firing line and the muzzles are facing down range it is an accpetable procedure. Andy deviation is dangerous.
What is your point? Do you advocate unsafe firearms handling practices?

 

[tom deinek]

I went through the Detroit Police Department academy in 1975. Range was 10 miles from our large airport.

Bet I know 10 guys in my class that had to run a couple of miles for pointing their weapons upward. That was a no-no; the rule was enforced just like every other rule. Pointing up was simply not tolerated.

And, before you comment, I doubt that policy had anything to do with Detroit going bankrupt.

 

[FishDFly]

Bet I know 10 guys in my class that had to run a couple of miles for pointing their weapons upward. That was a no-no; the rule was enforced just like every other rule. Pointing up was simply not tolerated.



Detroit rules and NMLRA rules are not the same are they?

Seems simple, does it not?

The rules on my ranch are mine, follow or leave, simple again.

 

[tom deinek]

I dispute the "most ranges" assertion made prior hereto.

I don't live on a ranch; I don't live my life in the boodocks. I live in a city with high-rises & skyscrapers.

"Foolish consistency is the hobgobolin of the little mind".

 

[J D Hoffman]

quick question how old is your rifle? My .58 was doing thesame thing and I had to clean the bore from fouling JB Bore Cleaner pull the breech and swab it out made a big improvement

 

[Rifleman1776]

I dispute the "most ranges" assertion made prior hereto.

Dispute all you want. The claim stands.
We are a muzzle loading forum here. Most clubs and ranges with invitational shoots operate under NMLRA rules. "muzzle up" is the rule. You can stand there disputing and stomping your feet all you want but if your muzzle is anywhere but pointing up anywhere except at the firing line when it is hot, you will be told to correct your behavior or leave.

 

[MikeyC]

Dirt Weasel,
When I first got a Lyman GPR in .54 I saw one of the new Delrin rods. So of course I bought it. Cleaned the bore before shooting using the Delrin rod. Went to the range loaded first shot, all was great. Before the second load I thought I would wipe the bore. Delrin rod, cleaning patch, and a little Moose milk. Well the damn thing stuck. Guy shooting next to me had some vice grips. No way was the ram rod coming out. Went home and put the rod in a vise. Almost pulled my work bench over. Soaked it for a week with Kroil. Finally came out. The delrin rod has never been used since. Got a stainless rod with a brass bore guide. Use it on .40, .45, .50, and the .54 without any problems. Oh, the cleaning patches I use are the same one's I used with the delrin many years ago. Never did figure out why that delrin stuck, but I'll never use it again.
Mike C.

 

[FishDFly]

As Rifleman1776 said:

We are a muzzle loading forum here. Most clubs and ranges with invitational shoots operate under NMLRA rules. "muzzle up" is the rule.

My son's could not follow ranch rules concerning gun safety and hunting within Texas laws.

Their Grandfather explained to them, my ranch my rules, follow them or leave, they have not returned.

His rules were simple and they were printed and framed on the kitchen wall for all to see and to review prior to shooting or hunting.

One house has two (2) bullet holes in the inside ceiling from loaded guns being brought into the house.

All safety rules were established because someone was hurt or killed.

 

[Rifleman1776]

Dirt Weasel,
When I first got a Lyman GPR in .54 I saw one of the new Delrin rods. So of course I bought it. Cleaned the bore before shooting using the Delrin rod. Went to the range loaded first shot, all was great. Before the second load I thought I would wipe the bore. Delrin rod, cleaning patch, and a little Moose milk. Well the damn thing stuck. Guy shooting next to me had some vice grips. No way was the ram rod coming out. Went home and put the rod in a vise. Almost pulled my work bench over. Soaked it for a week with Kroil. Finally came out. The delrin rod has never been used since. Got a stainless rod with a brass bore guide. Use it on .40, .45, .50, and the .54 without any problems. Oh, the cleaning patches I use are the same one's I used with the delrin many years ago. Never did figure out why that delrin stuck, but I'll never use it again.
Mike C.

The Delrin didn't stick, the jag at the end is what stuck. Not unusual for jags to need a slight turning down to work properly.

 

[buckhorn]

Reply To Topic--

Wooden ramrod stuck down barrel.

Wrapped strip of cloth a few times around rod
to protect rod.

Grabbed rod around cloth with pliers and tapped up
on pliers with hammer until rod came out.

 

[cschibi]

:grin:

You don't have to have a high post count or forum ranking to add some practical value or wisdom to some of the very interesting dilemmas posted on this forum. :wink:

 

[Rat Trapper]

I've had the range rod stuck a number of times. No big deal, since it has a "T" handle, I just put the "T" over the edge of the picnic table and pull it out. I use a nylone bore guide to protect the barrel while using the range rod to load or clean.

 

[Rifleman1776]

Many ranges have installed a heavy hunk of steel with a slot cut in it for pulling rods. Some ranges have the pullers installed in the rafters to keep the muzzle up. Others have them on a post at the firing line to keep the muzzle pointed down range.