Real black powder

[CaptainVane]

Is sometimes hard to find, I use Triple 7 and satisfied with it.
So here a question. If you could get real black powder would you go back? Or would you stay with the substitutes?
Personally, I kinda like 777 over the real stuff.

 

[Panama Red]

I’m a recent convert to black powder. All my muzzle loading/cap and ball revolver up till now was Pyrodex. Flintlock doesn’t work well/barely works with substitutes, so I went black. Powder Valley had Schuetzen on sale last week for under 20 bucks a pound. GOEX is supposed to start production back up today.
Next time I find it on sale like that, I’m doing a North Florida group buy.
-Red, once he’s had black…

 

[Coot]

Real BP works in everything. Subs only do well with percussion guns. I keep it simple & use BP for flint & revolvers - no subs to stock up on.

 

[64Springer]

Real black powder in flintlocks.

Fake black powder in percussions.

No real or fake black powder in cartridge guns.

 

[new2bp]

I got into front stuffers to shoot real black powder. If absolutely none were available I might use a sub if I really had a need to use a ML for hunting or something but I don't *have* to hunt ML season....

And if you are looking for some Grafs has Swiss, Schutzen and their house brand in stock now, with free hazmat if you order more than $150 (so 5+lbs of swiss or a few more of Schutzen/Housebrand)

 

[smokepolehall]

Actually my 1860 likes T7-3f also likes 3f black really well

 

[Edm]

I bought pyrodex in the late 80s when I bought my first pistol. Real BP ever since. Never tried anything else.

 

[WALT53]

Real BP works in everything. Subs only do well with percussion guns. I keep it simple & use BP for flint & revolvers - no subs to stock up on.

What he said providing you can get it.

 

[LST-1185]

I only use substitutes. In California we're allowed to have only one pound of black powder.

 

[nchawkeye]

Only real black for me, have tried most of the subs but as said, real black works in everything...

 

[Gtrubicon]

I only use substitutes. In California we're allowed to have only one pound of black powder.

Really?

 

[NorthFork]

I only use substitutes. In California we're allowed to have only one pound of black powder.

How they gonna know if you have more than 1 pound??

 

[64Springer]

Really?

Do you have any idea how much damage can be done with 1.1 pound of black powder.

 

[Rifleman1776]

We are in this to recreate the old ways. If you want to 'substitute' put away the ml rifle/pistol and get a bolt action rifle or a cartridge accepting handgun. Doing it the old way presents challenges and those are part of the history learning and enjoying aspects of this game.
EDIT: I'll soften my stance a bit for certain circumstances. When real bp is hard to find, using 'sub' powders may be the only way to continue to use the guns we favor here. I'll forgive ye for thet.

 

[Gtrubicon]

Do you have any idea how much damage can be done with 1.1 pound of black powder.

Since I live in California I’ll prolly never know what that .1 has the potential to do!

 

[Piquant]

Black powder only for me. There is no reason not too. It's available on line.

 

[TreeMan]

90% of my shooting is with real BP. I will use some T7 in my revolvers sometimes. I really like T7 in BP cartridges so I keep some on hand. T7 is also almost double the price of real black power if you buy BP online in bulk. Locally T7 is around $42 a pound here. I can order BP and with Hazmat and shipping still have around $25 in a pound of BP. I’d never shoot pyrodex in anything I own. Powdered rust.

 

[azmntman]

No issues with rust ad pyrodex here (ever). Shot 24 cylinders of Pyrodex P in my Peitta, waited 4 days to clean and ZERO ISSUES. AZ is a tad dry though we dont often deal with thath humidy stuff I hear of.

 

[springfield art]

Is sometimes hard to find, I use Triple 7 and satisfied with it.
So here a question. If you could get real black powder would you go back? Or would you stay with the substitutes?
Personally, I kinda like 777 over the real stuff.

I never tried 777. But good that you seem to like it.

 

[Erwan]

A few months ago I tried and used T7 and Pyrodex, the result is that I will never do it again...
I tried it because we have, here, in Absurdistan, a penury of real PN and now we can get some, with difficulties, real BP (French and Swiss). The French and the Swiss powders (equal in quality) are very expensive for us here and now: 1 Kg (two pounds of 500 grams) = 140.00 $ for the Swiss and 90.00 $ for the French and 65.00 $ for the American pound of T7), so the price is not a reason to choose substitutes or real BP and the T7 is easier to get. Trust me, I'm really happy to find those good real powders and I will never return near the substitutes.
The substitutes don't work with all my arms and the quality in regard to the real BP is bad...
I will never go back: black powder only.