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Just think about how all the thousands and thousands of people..myself included..who bow hunt either strictly for hogs or during deer archery season and shoot hogs too. I'd say in 99.9% of those carrying any type of firearm during archery season is illegal.
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No doubt hogs will eat about anything. If all they found was an empty rifle someone must have been searching for this person. Therefore he must have been hunting alone? If so how, was it determined that he was charged and killed by a hog as you implied. Knowing how much hogs tear up the ground just by living I wonder how the sign was unravelled. I'm not about to say a hog isn't capable, I said I believe it rarely happens. Every day through their own carelessness, ignorance and stupidity a lot of folks get hurt and/or dead.

Vic
 
sharps4590 said:
No doubt hogs will eat about anything. If all they found was an empty rifle someone must have been searching for this person. Therefore he must have been hunting alone? If so how, was it determined that he was charged and killed by a hog as you implied. Knowing how much hogs tear up the ground just by living I wonder how the sign was unravelled. I'm not about to say a hog isn't capable, I said I believe it rarely happens. Every day through their own carelessness, ignorance and stupidity a lot of folks get hurt and/or dead.

Vic

He was visiting reletives in east central Ms. around the town I grew up in. He had gone hog hunting by himself. When he didn't come back they went looking for him. Officials said from the evidence a pack of wild hogs got him. I went hog hunting way back when with a friend. He made a bad shot with a 30-30 and a hog charged him. He stood his ground and shot it five more times. The hog died at his feet. I couldn't shoot because he was between me and the hog. Some people hunt hogs with dogs and a knife. Won't catch me doing it.
 
paulvallandigham said:
May I recommend that you use a conical bullet in your .54 if you are shooting any boar that weighs more than 200 lbs?

I haven't tried conicals in the .54 yet. I'll consider that before I get serious about any big hogs. But big or small, there's lots of them. When I scouted the lease before signing on, I saw lots of hog sign and even saw one young one(smoker size) scampering across an opening.
 
dmills said:
paulvallandigham said:
May I recommend that you use a conical bullet in your .54 if you are shooting any boar that weighs more than 200 lbs?

I haven't tried conicals in the .54 yet. I'll consider that before I get serious about any big hogs. But big or small, there's lots of them. When I scouted the lease before signing on, I saw lots of hog sign and even saw one young one(smoker size) scampering across an opening.
A 230grn ball in the ear is all that's needed.
 
I agree, if you can get the boar to stand still long enough to make that shot into its ear. Some boar hunters want to mount the heads for trophies, and this shot is not an option. The bigger target is the Heart/Lung area of the upper chest, which is protected from the sides by stout leg and shoulder bones, and a very thick shoulder blade. We had two archers shoot pigs with their setups for hunting deer, and neither broadhead penetrated the shoulder blade. We did have a one shot kill with B&A, with the archer using a compound bow, heavy Easton arrow shaft designed for hunting Elk, straight fletched 4 feathers, and 4 bladed( heavy) broadhead. The arrow penetrated the boar at 20 yds., entering the left side just behind the ball socket for the shoulder, cutting through both lungs, and apparently cutting an aorta, and then nicking the shoulder joint on the right shoudler before exiting. It was the only one shot kill of a boar with bow and arrow in the history of the game preserve where the hunt took place, in Tennessee, to that date. In the post-mortums of the two deer that were not killed by the hunters using lighter gear, we determined that it was the helical fletching, which cause the broadhead to turn, or rotate, as it was going through the flesh that stopped the arrows from penetrating the heavy shoulder blades, and not the condition of the broadhead, the draw weight of the bows, or the weight of the shaft. The rotation caused the sides of the broadhead blades to rub against the boney shoulder blade, bringing the arrow to an abrupt halt. We could see the evidence of the twisting motion in the wound in the shoulder blades.

The owner of the preserve was so impressed with that archery kill that he announced that future archery hunters would be advised to set up their arrows with straight fletching. Because most hunters are going to have a shot at the chest area of a boar, much more likely than a shot through the ear, it makes sense to discuss what will stop a large boar with a chest shot. I recommended the use of conicals after seeing the results of using round balls in chest hits. I know of two boars that were killed with chest hits from one shot each, but both took almost a minute to finally drop. At the close ranges we shoot boar, he can still hurt you as he is dying. I had a good shot at the ear of my second boar, but it was a trail above me, and I would have had to shoot through its jaw bone to hit the brain, not through the ear. I didn't want to take the chance of the ball being turned by those bones.
 
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May I also suggest one of these for each hand & a steady nerve! :shocked2:

Davy
 
I can't understand why anyone would want to shoot a big +300lb boar? Other than maybe city hunters, most folks I know prefer bagging pigs in the 200lb or less catergory. Better table fare and a hell of alot easier to load in back of the pickup.

I guess there is a differance between having to pay to hunt hogs vs. being paid to hunt them. :grin: Last hog I got I was atleast fed breakfast, lunch and supper for free and was offered a bigger gun and extra ammo for the job. A .223 in the heart dropped a 250lb sow in her tracks. I was actually calling coyotes that day but the pig showed up instead.

With a good shot a pig drops quick but its the bad ones that you have to worry about. I don't like trailing a wounded hog into the brush not becasue of the danger nearly as much as it's alot of work dragging it back out.
 
I feel the same way about deer. I'd much rather have a nice doe or a spike then some big, ol' tough 8 point. I'm not hunting for the rack, I'm hunting for the meat and doe and spikes are much better eatin'. That's why I don't mind taking the 40cal out. I'm sure it'll do fine on a 150lb deer at 50 yrds or less. Same deal with the 75cal smoothbore, out to 50yrds it's as good as a rifle.
Dad used to tell me stories about when he was a kid and they'd climb an oak tree and wait for the wild hogs to come around to eat the acorns then they'd pop em' in the head with a 22lr. It'd kill em' just as dead as a 458 Win Mag.LOL.
 
The only hogs I shoot anymore are ones that look like will taste good and in an easy spot to get out.
That usually means fat gilts and shoats..and if real fat a dry sow and I always shoot in the head when using gun.
I still pass up a lot of them due to not wanting to mess up a good spot for deer.
 
Frank, we still kill our butchering hogs with a .22. It's worked just fine for a heck of a long time, long before I ever graced this earth with my presence. I've seen several wild hogs killed with regular deer hunting archery equipment and most of that was traditional bows with an average draw weight of around 50 lbs., cedar arrows and two bladed broadheads. Sure it took the hog a minute or so to bleed out but they died about like a deer. Hogs are the same as most critters in that it's where you hit 'em. That and being a good hunter. Seems to me this hog hunting is getting a lot like modern muzzleloaders and compound bows....a lot of hype mixed in with facts. More folks hunting hogs is going to make for more "stories", especially if they don't know hogs. There are less and less of us every year who grew up in the woods, fields and streams and on farms and it's showing. It makes me wonder how our forefathers ever survied long enough to reach adulthood let alone produce offspring.

I've been chased by hogs lots of times....and every doggone one of them was a domestic sow with pigs. I've never been honestly chased or charged by a wild hog. I ain't sayin' it won't happen but it's never happened to me and I believe it's a very rare occurance. I've had them run within an arms reach of me but they darn sure weren't chasing or charging me.....they wanted to get away and get away right now! Most of the time if you stand still they won't even know you're around or care much if they do. If they get too close to suit you, side step them at the last moment and they'll shoot on buy looking for escape.

To read this thread one would think; Most hogs charge, hogs are hard to kill, hogs attack and kill people, (if such is the case something went terribly wrong and my sympathy goes out to the family), hogs can't safely be hunted without some kind of back-up and a 54 round ball isn't big enough. Hogwash.....pun intended.

I guess I don't get it. It's a hog and the best place for a hog is on the plate!!!!

Vic
 
I've had a healthy respect for hogs all my life. I guess it originated from my early yrs. on the farm. I still remember my granddad..warning me.."don't go into that back lot, that Ole sow has pigs" and my father warning me many times while following him around bird hunting..."Watch out for that sow she has pigs."
I always dreaded having to go through them in the dark when hunting..and have had to deal with them in that way for almost 50yrs. I still get tense when I'm hunting in the afternoon and hear them coming..usually it's a grunt or maybe a short squeal, but if a sow is in heat they'll be squealin, gruntn, snort'n, fightn..all kind of racket. And all I can think of is I got to go through them things gettin out of here after dark.
But in all my dealings with them I've never had one make an effort to cut me or anything. Many times I've grabbed tree trunks when I'd shot one and it would run to wards me, but always went on by. I've run right through the middle of them more times than I can remember and even almost ran over little pigs with sows..all before or after dark while going or coming in the woods on my bike. Wild sows with pigs are not near as protective as domesticated ones..and I guess it's because the domesticated ones have less fear of man. The wild ones I dealt with with pigs are more concerned with getting away than protecting their pigs.
However..when the sun gets low and I hear them coming I my heart still picks up it's pace.
 
Aw geezzzzz.....be a good hunter, pay attention to what the Sam Hill is going on around you, pick your shot, shoot the darned hog in the right place and it will die as quick as a deer and give you no more reason for fright than a deer or rabbit. This has been blown all out of proportion. Hogs ain't Cape Buffalo, American bison or bear. But, if you choose to give hogs the same attributes as Cape buffalo, American bison or bear to add spice to your hunt then by all means do so, it's just that it ain't so. If you take off running after you've shot a hog the blamed thing will possibly run towards you or maybe even after you...hoping you know an escape route.......and it can actually see you......and you can say you've been "charged" and it died at your feet. Then you can be a "great white hunter" and proclaim to all your friends how you were "charged" by a "wild boar".

I'm not saying hogs can't be mean, I KNOW better! Jeezo Pete Criminy I KNOW better. But.....aw H E double hockey sticks, I quit. It's been amusing to see how a mountain can actually be made from a mole hill in the minds of some.

Vic
 
We kill a bunch of porkers here in Florida.
I have gotten my share.
Still haven't met the "man-eater" everyone is so worried about.
I treat with the hog with the respect I give any
wild animal.
Carefully shoot it, wait enough time to let him expire,
track him down,
aproach him carefully with a loaded gun,
shoot him agian if you like,
take him home
eat -em.

Hogs are no doubt tough, but not mean.

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P.S.
Somebody mentioned using a spear/knife.
It is something ya have to try.
Best bang for the buck in hog hunting.
Words do not do it justice.
Try it/you will like it.
 
Wow Ironsights, where did you get that baby? Always wanted a double barrel 12 gauge pistol.

mike
 
:bow: You got it right Frank, I've got one I've hunted hogs with using that load, one shot (lower chest behind shoulder) and one kill, it ran aways before giving up, but not far.
 
Here's some backup items I'd recommend.

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Or if you've got a pet Crocodile you could bring him along. :rotf:

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