Remington Navy-two powders, two groups.

[Rat]

I think Ugly meant "under" rather than over. Just a hunch.

 

[FishDFly]

what held the COW in the cylinder? gravity? why don't it fall out with nothing between the cylinder & barrel? I could see a dab of grease, BORE BUTTER or old tried & true CRISCO, being used.

Powder, Cream Of Wheat, ball, then lube over the ball.

 

[shortstart]

Thank goodness for that. Congrats on your reckless exercise sir.
Oh don't worry about blaming, flaming me. I have been married to the same woman for more than thirty years so I'm good for it!
Remember to count your fingers before you retire for the evening! Don't leave any for the crows!

I can relate to that Sir!LOL

 

[ugly old guy]

what held the COW in the cylinder? gravity? why don't it fall out with nothing between the cylinder & barrel? I could see a dab of grease, BORE BUTTER or old tried & true CRISCO, being used.

When a properly sized/correct size ball is used it is shaven a couple thousandths when pressed home. Friction keeps the ball from falling out.
I ain't knowing what a "cow" is other than hambuger and steaks on the hoof.

 

[Juice Jaws]

Comments, observations? Shooting 24 grains of fffg under a ball, with wax wad, group is strung vertically.

24 grains of ffffg, again with wax wad, I got a round group. The ffffg was noticeably "hotter", but not substantially so. With either load, that .36 is one soft recoiling pistola.

Vertical string is less with the rounded, or ffffg group, than with the strung or fffg group, by about 1/2" inch, or a bit less.

On the rounded group, or fffg group, the high left shot was a called flyer, but another shot touched off normally went the same distance high.

My observations are that even though the fffg group looks tighter at first glance, the ffffg group is actually very slightly smaller, not considering the difference in horizontal dispersion.

Generally, a rounded group is preferred over a tighter, but "strung" group, in pistol shooting. Stringing usually indicates a bad hold, or some other variable. I shot both groups with the same hold, from the same position.

Any comments regarding the use of ffffg should be addressed to: Mr.Brit, esq. View attachment 17090 View attachment 17090

How many yards were you shooting? Depending on how far you were shooting I don't think your groups are that bad for the first go around. I use and like 4F (Brit said I could), use about 24 grains, felt lube wad over powder, then .375 ball over that , no grease over balls. Has always been a good load for me. But you need to shoot a lot more to see what powder works best for you.

 

[Grenadier1758]

I ain't knowing what a "cow" is other than hambuger and steaks on the hoof.

In this context COW is Cream of Wheat used as a filler over the powder to fill the chamber and bring the ball to the mouth of the chamber.

 

[toot]

When a properly sized/correct size ball is used it is shaven a couple thousandths when pressed home. Friction keeps the ball from falling out.
I ain't knowing what a "cow" is other than hambuger and steaks on the hoof.

COW is cream of wheat in reloading circles.

 

[toot]

I think Ugly meant "under" rather than over. Just a hunch.

that makes a lot more sense.

 

[sawyer04]

what held the COW in the cylinder? gravity? why don't it fall out with nothing between the cylinder & barrel? I could see a dab of grease, BORE BUTTER or old tried & true CRISCO, being used.

Same question?

 

[sawyer04]

that makes a lot more sense.

I bet under is what the gentleman meant. Got it

 

[ugly old guy]

COW is cream of wheat in reloading circles.

AHH; ... I used to top off the cylinders with that at the CW Reeinactments.

 

[ugly old guy]

I think Ugly meant "under" rather than over. Just a hunch.

In my case "Ugly" means "Unpleasant to look at."
(as you can see by my icture)

 

[flntlokr]

Yes, it will easily take 26 or perhaps a bit more. At 24 grains the ball is well below the chamber mouth. It is loaded with 26 grains right now, but haven't had a chance to shoot it. (or am too lazy to clean it at the moment)

Usually, normally, or before, a .357 case of powder and wonder wad would would seat the ball with room to spare, but the wax wads don't compress as much, compared to a felt wad. Which is okay, one powder charge will work with both ball and slug, although I really don't shoot the slug much as it is less accurate.

I think it is best to use some filler on top of your load 9i use corn meal) so you get the ball as close to the forcing cone as you can. The ball will have a lot less velocity when it gets jammed in there, which may cause it to rattle around a bit; may make a tiny difference in your patterns. I have never bothered with any kind of wad. I lube over every second cylinder. Never had a problem with fouling other than normal powder residue. I found the most accurate loads to be about half of the maximum (in a .44 Ruger). Unless you are trying to kill something that bites, you shouldn't need more than that.