Repair or replace

[Thingamajiggy]

First day out with gun and dropped it out of a treestand. Wrist broke (see pic), I think I can repair it as far as ability but not sure it i should or just order a new stock. Wood grain (split with grain)

has me a little worried with repair, thoughts?

 

[Mulebrain]

Bummer!

How much is a new stock?

 

[springfield art]

First day out with gun and dropped it out of a treestand. Wrist broke (see pic), I think I can repair it as far as ability but not sure it i should or just order a new stock. Wood grain (split with grain) View attachment 357888has me a little worried with repair, thoughts?

Re-enactor Besses often have the same break! One guy's Bess was 'resting' in the gun carriage when they started pulling it away! Snap! That's why you see the brass repair plates on them so often. The newer brown wood glue states it has a 4,000 lb. strength! Try it, put a 'cool' brass plate on it, and it's a genuine real-life frontier repair!

 

[Thingamajiggy]

Bummer!

How much is a new stock?

It's a kibler so 300ish I believe?

 

[Thingamajiggy]

Re-enactor Besses often have the same break! One guy's Bess was 'resting' in the gun carriage when they started pulling it away! Snap! That's why you see the brass repair plates on them so often. The newer brown wood glue states it has a 4,000 lb. strength! Try it, put a 'cool' brass plate on it, and it's a genuine real-life frontier repair!

Yeah, I'm ok with how to fix it, just worried with the grain running across the wrist that I could get it strong enough. Thanks for your thoughts.

 

[deerstalkert]

identical break to my Mortimer. twice. first one i just glued. second one was 3/8 in front of the first.
glued the second break and popped the lock, barrel and trigger guard, drilled from the breach table down through the breaks. poured some epoxy into the drilled hole and then threaded a all thread rod into the hole letting the epoxy ooze out. if you slot the end of the rod you can use a screw driver to get it fully seated.
once the epoxy dried i chiseled out any that was where it shouldn't be. no breaks since.
that reminds me, haven't shot that rifle in 6 months. where are those .535 balls?

 

[andy52]

Personally, I'd go with a repair first you can always replace it later if the repair is unsatisfactory.

 

[snakebit]

Dang. Sorry that happened to you. If that were me taking that picture of my broken rifle, there would have been a fresh pile of puke.

 

[bldtrailer]

I had a break like that and had Brad at Cabin creek repair it ( a metal rod and glued) hard to see the repair he stated that it was stronger than before the repair

 

[bldtrailer]

cost of the repair vs new from Kibler
repair if a beloved custom build

 

[Thingamajiggy]

Dang. Sorry that happened to you. If that were me taking that picture of my broken rifle, there would have been a fresh pile of puke.

Yeah, I've had a year so far. First day for me this year and the guns first hunt. Stuff happens but am sick about it.

 

[yellowhammer]

Like they say, there are 2 kinds: those who have and those who will break one.

Me, being cursed with detail freakism, it would drive me crazy knowing it's there, so I vote for the new stock. Just checked, they're $400 for plain maple uncarved [LINK].

ETA: carved fancy maple like yours, $960; whoa - glue that one up, sell it, and buy a new kit? Tough decisions...

 

[The Crisco Kid]

Does that break follow the grain of the wood?

 

[Thingamajiggy]

Does that break follow the grain of the wood?

Yes, why I'm a little worried about strength.

 

[Thingamajiggy]

Like they say, there are 2 kinds: those who have and those who will break one.

Me, being cursed with detail freakism, it would drive me crazy knowing it's there, so I vote for the new stock. Just checked, they're $400 for plain maple uncarved [LINK].

ETA: carved fancy maple like yours, $960; whoa - glue that one up, sell it, and buy a new kit? Tough decisions...

Thanks for the info, guess I'll try a fix first.

 

[The Crisco Kid]

Yes, why I'm a little worried about strength.

It's a classic example of bad grain flow in the wrist area. There's not much to be done about it but some sort of reinforcement. It looks like a nice stock so maybe a traditional repair would be the way to go. You could always make up a good story as to how it happened.

 

[Larry (Omaha)]

First day out with gun and dropped it out of a treestand. Wrist broke (see pic), I think I can repair it as far as ability but not sure it i should or just order a new stock. Wood grain (split with grain) View attachment 357888has me a little worried with repair, thoughts?

Id fix it with a epoxied 3/8" all thread both directions of the crack. There will be a shown crack when done, but that will give the gun character. The crack exposure could be somewhat better in appearance if you wanted to tackle messing with the stain & finish beyond minimum stain dab where color may have been removed. JMO.
Larry

 

[Larry (Omaha)]

Yeah, I'm ok with how to fix it, just worried with the grain running across the wrist that I could get it strong enough. Thanks for your thoughts.

Grain is an issue. That is why I suggested a 3/8" epoxied threaded rod plus glue.
Larry

 

[earlwb]

I agree in that you should repair it. A new stock is more of a last resort kind of thing.

 

[Thingamajiggy]

Grain is an issue. That is why I suggested a 3/8" epoxied rod plus glue.
Larry

Definitely the way to go, thank you.