Condemning an old rifle, rather than repairing it.

[Philip Lebow]

GC...Yes I have several sets of BA taps and dies, BSF as well. Also Whitworth left over from my motorcycle infatuation days.. At high tide I had
17 bikes...and only one was a. Harley! Brit singles, a couple of Nortons, a Panther sidecar motor, and a Brough Superior with the Matchless engine,
the JAP having blown a cylinder off in the desert!

 

[Philip Lebow]

Oh, and then I fell off a Suzuki Production racer at 100 per, and broke my back...Universe said "time to quit!"

 

[Gordoncourtney]

What's a "£" anyway?

Nuffing till it gets to £2000. Holts December auction uk.


FINE MODERN & ANTIQUE ARMS - DECEMBER 2024 : SALE A1224 LOT 407
* A 40-BORE FLINTLOCK NORTH AMERICAN 'KENTUCKY' RIFLE POSSIBLY SIGNED ROGERS, no visible serial number,


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* A 40-BORE FLINTLOCK NORTH AMERICAN 'KENTUCKY' RIFLE POSSIBLY SIGNED ROGERS, no visible serial number,
dated for 1806, with octagonal 34 1/2in. barrel, dove-tailed fore-sight with brass blade, moulded buckhorn rear-sight, the top-flat near breech marked 'N.B. 1806', solid top-tang, flat lock with stepped tail and traces of signature below pan, possibly 'Rogers & ?, Philadelphia, Warranted', working replacement cock, stripy maple full-stock (fore-end with repairs), shallow raised cheek-piece, brass furniture including engraved patchbox with pierced hinge, double set triggers, the trigger guard with raised lower tang and wood ramrod with horn tip

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Estimate £1,500-2,000


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[Rudyard]

What's a "£" anyway?

A pound is 20 shillings my first weeks wage was just under 3 of them now it might buy a meat pie .I bought an original Volunteer three band Enfield for 8 pounds it was considered dear, and to a school boy it was , still got it mind. Rudyard

 

[Rudyard]

GC...Yes I have several sets of BA taps and dies, BSF as well. Also Whitworth left over from my motorcycle infatuation days.. At high tide I had
17 bikes...and only one was a. Harley! Brit singles, a couple of Nortons, a Panther sidecar motor, and a Brough Superior with the Matchless engine,
the JAP having blown a cylinder off in the desert!

My set of taps & dies are so hard to read they get mixed do you want to sell the British sets ?
Rudyard

 

[bpalbee]

A steady customer who likes to challenge us (buys crap old guns, cheap) to repair and make shootable his "treasures."
He bought 2 old cap lock drum conversions, both in very poor shape. A .36, and a .40....obviously flint conversions to 1/2 stocks.
The .36 wasn't too bad, it was cleaned and I pulled the breech plug to inspect and clean out the rust and dirt. Plug went back in tight.
The .40 was a back action, with a modern drum, split stock that had been over sanded and had lots of modern screws and white glue in it.
When I pulled the plug with brazed on tail extension, on the .40, the plug came out in a shower of orange dust. The plug just fell apart...
He paid$100 for the gun... The plug thread is over 1/2 " and under 9/16"..Too bad, as the barrel and rifling look good...
Needs a 9/16-18 tap in the bbl, and a new plug turned and welded to old tang section. And the drum is loose, over tapped..
Lock has been through many hands, bad bridle screws, rust, etc. double set triggers rusty but OK..
More money to rescue it, than the repaired gun will ever be worth. and it has no sentimental value...
So, I reassembled it as I could, and put a red tag on it...UNSAFE....
Plus my 3 other gunsmiths said they would slap me around if I took it on as an "I bet I could rescue this wreck of a gun!" for no profit...

Could the old breach, damaged part be cut off and a new breach / touch hole filled and tapped? Lots of orphan stock blanks out there and a decent rifled section of barrel is gold

 

[Gordoncourtney]

Could the old breach, damaged part be cut off and a new breach / touch hole filled and tapped? Lots of orphan stock blanks out there and a decent rifled section of barrel is gold

Could the old breach, damaged part be cut off and a new breach / touch hole filled and tapped? Lots of orphan stock blanks out there and a decent rifled section of barrel is gold

GC...Yes I have several sets of BA taps and dies, BSF as well. Also Whitworth left over from my motorcycle infatuation days.. At high tide I had
17 bikes...and only one was a. Harley! Brit singles, a couple of Nortons, a Panther sidecar motor, and a Brough Superior with the Matchless engine,
the JAP having blown a cylinder off in the desert!

Hello I only commented as I got hold of a box of taps now sorted , but amongst them to my mates delight was three sets of bicycle taps used on pre 1920 Motor bikes

Plenty of old taps and dies , plus made in China ones like £8 each on ebayuk. I ordered stuff whilst in Perth WA and got it posted on. Just send seller a pre printed paid label. , photo a job lot £2 at a car boot now sorted

 

[Gordoncourtney]

My set of taps & dies are so hard to read they get mixed do you want to sell the British sets ?
Rudyard

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[Loyalist Dave]

More money to rescue it, than the repaired gun will ever be worth. and it has no sentimental value...
So, I reassembled it as I could, and put a red tag on it...UNSAFE....
Plus my 3 other gunsmiths said they would slap me around if I took it on as an "I bet I could rescue this wreck of a gun!" for no profit...

On the other hand Cracker Barrel restaurants like to hang old guns up over their fireplace. I hate to see it when the gun is actually in pretty good shape and probably could be worked back into use. (I've been to LOTS of Cracker Barrel locations ) On the other hand if the gun is so banged up it isn't salvageable, then THAT should be sold to them and attached to their wall. Might at least get what was paid for it.

LD