Restocking

[Crow#21957]

If I restocking a gun. Using a precarve from same company as original stock was from.
Wouldn't the lock and barrel be the same position? Sorry f that's a dumb question but to me precarve the lock can only go one location and same with breech of barrel.

 

[Flintandsteel]

Probably not. Small variations in set up etc.

 

[54ball]

It's not a dumb question.
A "restock" is really a new rifle and the old one is really just a pattern. These do not have the interchangeability of say a production firearm. Even the factory production line guns do not have universal interchangeability at times.
Really, you are building a new rifle.

This is what I recommend.
1. Fix/repair the old stock if possible.
2. If using a pre-carve, get a stock without the lock inlet. You can lay it out. This way after the barrel is fit, you can put the lock where it needs to go. This may be slightly different than the base gun but it's in the right spot.

 

[Crow#21957]

Thanks 54ball

 

[Eric Krewson]

I watched a you tube video on Mark Weader inletting stocks, he does them one at a time so everything goes in the right place including the lock inlet. He would be the go-to guy if you want it done right.



If you use the P place don't even think about them doing the lock inlet.

 

[rafterob]

I think it is best when going with a pre-carve to just get the barrel channel and ramrod hole drilled. That lets you do the layout of the breech and the fitting of the lock yourself.

 

[Crow#21957]

I think it is best when going with a pre-carve to just get the barrel channel and ramrod hole drilled. That lets you do the layout of the breech and the fitting of the lock yourself.
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The P place has done great for me so far.

Can you tell me what it is you don't like about their lock mortise. Thanks

 

[FlinterNick]

It depends.

Pedersoli’s machined stocks are fully inlet and drilled within a very low tolerance. so you could never use their stocks on anyone else’s parts.

Personally if i wanted a copy, I would have someone copy the butt, wrist, cut the barrel and drill the rammer and i would do the rest.

However, this isn’t the most cost effective thing to do.

You’ll need a blank which will run around 225-250 and then you’ll need to pay someone to do the copying on a duplicator, which will cost around another 250.

And even then the work is usually never… perfect.

Personally I would learn the skill, if you have a viable set of tools need.

Saws, routers files, chisels and a rammer drill can be purchased.

the best way to restock a gun really is by hand slowely.

 

[Crow#21957]

It depends.

Pedersoli’s machined stocks are fully inlet and drilled within a very low tolerance. so you could never use their stocks on anyone else’s parts.

Personally if i wanted a copy, I would have someone copy the butt, wrist, cut the barrel and drill the rammer and i would do the rest.

However, this isn’t the most cost effective thing to do.

You’ll need a blank which will run around 225-250 and then you’ll need to pay someone to do the copying on a duplicator, which will cost around another 250.

And even then the work is usually never… perfect.

Personally I would learn the skill, if you have a viable set of tools need.

Saws, routers files, chisels and a rammer drill can be purchased.

the best way to restock a gun really is by hand slowely.

Oh shoot the P I thought was Pecatonica. Didn't think of Pedorsoli

 

[rich pierce]

Planning is time well spent if attempting to build a gun similar to originals. If just producing a shooter it matters less whether the barrel is set here or half an inch back as long as the lock is placed correctly. But with a precarve the slope of tang and where the underside starts to curve downward, and length of wrist, are all going to be affected by these decisions.

 

[Comfortably_Numb]

Planning is time well spent if attempting to build a gun similar to originals. If just producing a shooter it matters less whether the barrel is set here or half an inch back as long as the lock is placed correctly. But with a precarve the slope of tang and where the underside starts to curve downward, and length of wrist, are all going to be affected by these decisions.

All of which is why it's easier to build from a blank.

 

[Eric Krewson]

There is another benefit from plank building; you have control of the drop, pull and cast off, if you have ever shot a gun that had the stock shaped to fit you exactly, nothing less will ever feel right for you.

 

[Col. Batguano]

We should a thread about the many measurements taken and used to develop a stock that's just perfect for the shooter. And how to do it without a dedicated "try stock" the way the British custom shops like Holland and Holland, Purdey, or Churchill do for their customers.