Returning to Cap & Ball revolvers

[nightwolf1974]

After losing ALL my firearms in a house fire in 2014, I'm just starting to get back into Cap & Ball revolvers.
After Christmas, I'm ordering a pair of Pietta brass frame 1851 Colt Navy revolvers (in .44 cal) and a Pietta brass frame 1851 Navy revolver w/4.875" barrel. I can't wait!

 

[Juice Jaws]

Sorry about the fire, hope you enjoy your new revolvers in the New Year

 

[Smokey Plainsman]

I’m a ‘58 man.

 

[rodwha]

After losing ALL my firearms in a house fire in 2014, I'm just starting to get back into Cap & Ball revolvers.
After Christmas, I'm ordering a pair of Pietta brass frame 1851 Colt Navy revolvers (in .44 cal) and a Pietta brass frame 1851 Navy revolver w/4.875" barrel. I can't wait!

Why the brass frames?

 

[Smokey Plainsman]

Why the brass frames?

Because that’s what he obviously wants.

The Pietro brass frame confederate sheriffs are great guns, modeled after those used by the south during the war.

 

[rodwha]

Because that’s what he obviously wants.

The Pietro brass frame confederate sheriffs are great guns, modeled after those used by the south during the war.

I see. I didn’t realize you guys were such close pals. Pardon my question then.

Modeled after them? Colt never made those guns with brass frames and they aren’t labeled as the Confederate copies.

 

[M. De Land]

After losing ALL my firearms in a house fire in 2014, I'm just starting to get back into Cap & Ball revolvers.
After Christmas, I'm ordering a pair of Pietta brass frame 1851 Colt Navy revolvers (in .44 cal) and a Pietta brass frame 1851 Navy revolver w/4.875" barrel. I can't wait!

Well, good,just don't load them full throttle and they should last you for years.

 

[Swandog]

A house fire is the worst. Never happened to me but ugh! everything gone. I'm insured but probably not enough on contents. Anyway, I like the brass frame look and have one that shoots fine. For power I'm going with a steel 1858, soon.

 

[dave61965]

I’m hopping Cabela’s has a good after Christmas sale again so I can pick up a 5.5” 58 Remington, the brass 51s should have a good price also if it’s like last year maybe.

 

[drobs]

Here's a vote for steel frames.

 

[8 BORE]

I see. I didn’t realize you guys were such close pals. Pardon my question then.

Modeled after them? Colt never made those guns with brass frames and they aren’t labeled as the Confederate copies.

Hey rodwha dont get on here to bitch and gripe. If thats what he wants. Thats what he will buy.
He never said they were made by
Colt. Other handguns were made by other companies.

 

[rodwha]

Hey rodwha dont get on here to bitch and gripe. If thats what he wants. Thats what he will buy.
He never said they were made by
Colt. Other handguns were made by other companies.

So another one I see. Funny. Seems there are a few people who need someone else to speak for them. And who said I came here to bitch and gripe? I asked the OP a question, not him nor you, yet here you two both are creating a situation that never had to be. Maybe you should stick to your own conversations and quite sticking your own opinions and views into them. Just a suggestion. And I guess I’m supposed to give a rats azz about your opinion or his? Your opinion and his is weighty I guess?

“If thats what he wants. Thats what he will buy.”

No way, really?

 

[rodwha]

Hey rodwha dont get on here to bitch and gripe. If thats what he wants. Thats what he will buy.
He never said they were made by
Colt. Other handguns were made by other companies.

Here’s the problem with the both of you. I merely asked the guy one simple question. Nowhere did I imply anything yet both of you made an assumption and jumped to conclusions and made your comments. I certainly didn’t asked either of you for your opinions (the only ones made were by you two) and yet both of you felt like making your opinions known, which were both way off the mark, especially not even knowing why I asked the one simple question I did. Quite frankly you should go to time out and think about what you did.

 

[M. De Land]

I think even a so called "stretched" brass frame can be salvaged with some steel inlays in the recoil shield as I doubt the frame window has actually elongated but rather the cylinder ratchet has imprinted into it from recoil. Just an idea I would like to experiment with some day if I can find and ole brass wreck to try it on.

 

[anaconda44]

I owned 2 Pietta guns a 1858 buffalo and a regular 1858 both brass frames. my only complaint was that the cylinders were no bored the same depth . you could load 25gr into each cylinder and when you seated the balls they were all different heights. and you can actually loon down the cylinders and see the different drilled lengths in the chambers. the hand springs broke a lot on me. I thought maybe the first one I bought had a bad run run hand springs but both did break . they look nice but I did sell them. moved over to uberti's with none of those issues but there a little more money and i dont think they make a brass frame gun also bought a ruger old army but for getting back into shooting there good starter pistols.

 

[snubnose57]

I also have a brass framer with the cylinder impressions on the recoil shield. Read an article somewhere about using a rimmed bushing behind the cylinder as a fix, but have no idea what a rimmed bushing looks like.

 

[nightwolf1974]

I like the look of the brass frame, and I shoot them @ the lower end of the loads in the book. I shot plenty of round balls out of them before they burned, and never had any issues. I'll not live long enough to shoot the 2k of round balls and wads I'm getting for the 3.
Everyone is entitled to an opinion...I personally don't like the '58 because fired caps sometimes get caught up in between the cylinder and top strap. On my Ruger Old Army I just powered through it, because of it being a real beefy action.

 

[rodwha]

I like the look of the brass frame, and I shoot them @ the lower end of the loads in the book. I shot plenty of round balls out of them before they burned, and never had any issues. I'll not live long enough to shoot the 2k of round balls and wads I'm getting for the 3.
Everyone is entitled to an opinion...I personally don't like the '58 because fired caps sometimes get caught up in between the cylinder and top strap. On my Ruger Old Army I just powered through it, because of it being a real beefy action.

Clearly you understand they require a lighter load. That was a large part of my asking. No point in spending any more on something you wouldn’t benefit from regardless.

Speaking of opinion, I, too, like the looks of the brass as well. One gun I’ve been interested in is the Spiller. Just something about it I’m drawn to. A bit low on my list, but on it for sure.

I’m a bit curious about caps messing with your ‘58. I have a 2013 Pietta and it’s been a trooper once I found it worked well with Rem #10’s and Ballistol on the cylinder pin.

Will you be looking for another Ruger or maybe something else?

 

[Smokey Plainsman]

Hey rodwha dont get on here to bitch and gripe. If thats what he wants. Thats what he will buy.
He never said they were made by
Colt. Other handguns were made by other companies.

Well said, man. Nothing wrong with the brassers and if that’s what OP wants, he’ll be well served. They are fun guns!

 

[M. De Land]

I also have a brass framer with the cylinder impressions on the recoil shield. Read an article somewhere about using a rimmed bushing behind the cylinder as a fix, but have no idea what a rimmed bushing looks like.

I had that idea my self and posted of it awhile back but I doubt it was original to me. It is just a logical thought for a brass frame fix. I doubt it would need to be more than .100 thick and silver soldered into a counter bore around the arbor hole. The diameter would only need to be as large as the ratchet face at the base of the cylinder.
It would need to be ported for the hand clearance but would not be much of an issue ,I would guess.