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Hi to everyone here !

Like ya allmay know in the meentime, Iam planning to build my own ML-gun.
To do this in the most sati´sfactional way, I want to rifle my barrel myself.

Does anybody can send me a few detailedPictures or a drawing of how to build a simple rifling bench ?

And I need to fix up my own rifling cutters...
Any Idea's , good pics or so ?
 
Hello, At one time Track of The Wolf carried a book about old time bench rifling machines, how to build ect. Also the Fox Fire series of books has some imformation , could be books 4,5,or 6. A large library might carry the series. Good luck.
 
Rifling benches....I can get some pics posted so you can see what's going on.

As for rifling cutters, Olie can answer your questions. I've got a couple for 40 and 50 caliber. I can take some pics of those also.
 
Check out Toad Hall Rifleshoppe Click Here Bookie hand builds all most all of his barrels. He has a lot of info, and will answer yer questions. Bill
 
BLAHMAN said:
Rifling benches....I can get some pics posted so you can see what's going on.

As for rifling cutters, Olie can answer your questions. I've got a couple for 40 and 50 caliber. I can take some pics of those also.

Thanks Blahman !

Every pic, every drawing, every tipp helps me to develop and build my own thing !
Ya guys have to know that rifle building ect, exspecially self-rifling , is not very known here...
Now I go for the challenge and try it out.

Therefor I need detailed pics, drawings of simple home-made rifling-benches, rifling-cutters and everything that goes along with it.

Once more :
Thank you for your assistance and Help

Charly
You may send pics and whatever to :
[email protected]
 
Might want to look here??

http://www.cr.nps.gov/history/online_books/popular/13/index.htm

Nice lil articel and shows some of the old style Rifling beds and their designs..

Respect Always
Metalshaper
 
Charley, the reble:

Most of the old time rifling heads were made out of wood ( hickery).Now I don't know what kind of wood there are in Germany but you need a hard wood. Take a piece of hard wood about 7 inches long, turn 6 inches to a diameter that will slide in the bore and turn 1 inch length to 1/4 inch diameter, this will be the pull end. The pull end will be threaded to 1/4 x 28 thread. Now you have to cut a notch, place to put the cutter in. The cutter has to fit tight and has to be on the center line of the rifling head. You can use brass for the rifling head but not mild steel as mild steel will gauld and bind.

I make the cutters out of HS Tool steel,1/8-3/16 square tool bits.You have to get a piece of tool sttel to fit the notch in the wood. The notch has to be deep enough so the cutter will go below the surface of the rifling head.

To make the hocked cutter you have grind some of the cutter down to leave a square face ( about 1/4- 1/3 the length of cutter) on the tool bit. This will give you a cutting face to work with. Now you need abour 2 to5 degrees on top for clearence. You will have to grind the sides of the cutter to get the width and clearence. The sides have to ground on a back angle to get your clearence and have a cutting edge.

To get the width of the rifling cutter, first you have to figure the circumference of the bore. Example: 50 caliber, .500 diameter x 3.14159= 1.57096 inches cir. If you want even lands & grooves, say 8, you just divide by 16 because you have 8 lands and 8 grooves. If you want uneven grooves and lands you can figure them with a percent, 80% groove-land 20%, 70% groove- land 30% and divide by the number of grooves or lands.

Hope this helps
OLie
 
Charly,the rebel;

You can make a rifling bench out of a metal lathe. It should be 42 to 48 inches long. If you don't have a lathe but have a job and $199.00, you can get a loan to buy a lathe or at least get a car.

Hope this helps.
Olie
 
Hi Olie !
Thans for your tipps !
I write 'em down all - like all others before too.
You know, thew best advice will not be as helpfull as personal assistance - and because of that, i do need pics badly !

Good and detailed Pics of :
- how the bench is constructed
( all I got is a toolroom with all kinds of regular tools you have usually in a house... I am non-professional. )
- how the Pull-handle is attached to the grooved log
- how the Cutter is shaped,
- how the cutter is fixed / set in the Cutter-rod
- how it will be justed
- how the Barrel-fixation is constructed,
-and so on - and so on...

ya see... pics and detailed drawings will help me very much along with all the tipps wich I recieved from you guys.

Would be glad if you ( and others ) can take some pics for me and send em to my e-mail-

regards
Charly
 
Charly, the Rebel;

Most of the things I do require metal working tool, lathe, mill, ect. I can take pictures but don't know how to post them on the web, sorry. Blahman does the posting.

Did you understand anything about the rifling head that I posted?

Olie
 
That Toad Hall Rifleshoppe owner has a book that will take you through every process of building a rifleing machine. Instructions, pictures, and every thing you will need, and very little machinery required. It's listed as book number 1 on his web site. Bill
 
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