Rough spot on bottom inside of Seneca Barrel

[Prairieofthedog]

I've been looking for a TC Seneca .36 and found one at the local gun shop.Inside of barrel looks very good with shiny bore and sharp rifling,but when pushing a patch down the last 1/2" I can feel a rough spot.I can just feel the patch catching something,I don't have to force it the last 1/2" but I can feel some resistance.Gun shop guy says barrel was empty when he bought it.Anyway was wondering if this spot will affect accuracy or cause me problems loading as the bore fouls?Gun is in good condition otherwise,just needs some clean-up.$440 firm for this gun so I don't want to put any more money in it.I haven't bought it yet,dealer is holding it.Thanks

 

[Rifleman1776]

I've been looking for a TC Seneca .36 and found one at the local gun shop.Inside of barrel looks very good with shiny bore and sharp rifling,but when pushing a patch down the last 1/2" I can feel a rough spot.I can just feel the patch catching something,I don't have to force it the last 1/2" but I can feel some resistance.Gun shop guy says barrel was empty when he bought it.Anyway was wondering if this spot will affect accuracy or cause me problems loading as the bore fouls?Gun is in good condition otherwise,just needs some clean-up.$440 firm for this gun so I don't want to put any more money in it.I haven't bought it yet,dealer is holding it.Thanks

Could very well be a crud ring from previous owner. Might clean out with soap and water and/or a bunch of steel wool on a jag. I would try the soap and water first the pour in some hydrogen peroxide the use the steel wool scrub.
I'm not up on prices for a used Seneca. I know they are in demand. You will die a horrible death if you tried to take my wife's away from her. :wink:
If the price is right to you, I say go for it.

 

[Prairieofthedog]

Rifleman 1776,I'm thinking like you that it may be a crud ring.I hope with a little elbow grease it will get better.The Senecas are bringing good money and I have been looking for one for a long time.I'm not the lucky guy that finds one at a garage for $100 LOL.Thanks for the info.

 

[William O.]

If it turns out to be a little rust or pitting I don't think it will affect accuracy since it is so far down the bore and hopefully it is just a crud ring but I would make sure of what it is before buying it. Regardless of what it is, steel wool and/or a bore polishing compound will help.

 

As the Rifleman said, it is probably a "crud" or fouling ring in front of where the previous owner's load sat. I would pour a few inches of Hoppes #9 in the bore and let it sit overnight. It should come right out with some steel wool on a tight jag.
Mark

 

[Rat Trapper]

Pretty hard to find a Seneca in 36 cal these days. I'd say buy it and if you have to you can use the parts to have a new barrel made up from a rifled blank. Track of the Wolf and Cains outdoors both will do it for you.

 

[BEP]

That last 1/2 inch is probably going to have powder in it anyway.

 

[ohio ramrod]

"Crud rings" are usually removed with a little 1/1/1 mixture of murphys oil soap, hyrdogen peroxide, and alochol. A little automotive buffing coumpound on a tight patch will take out extreme cases. Remember as long as it doesn't result in shredded patches it is so near the breech it won't effect accuracy.Senecas and Cherokees are in high demand amoung us grandparents for the grand kids, as well as for smaller women. :idunno:

 

[Prairieofthedog]

I might let a smaller women use this gun,but there ain't gonna be any kids touchin' it.LOL!!

 

[don hepler]

I have a 36 Seneca and a Patriot and I can feel the joint where the breech plug and barrel meet, I took a .050 piece of piano wire and bent a 90 degree hook on it. I layed it on the outside of the barrel on both guns and marked the place where the breech plug meets the barrel, and I could feel the shoulder,(inside the barrels), on both guns. This is about 1/2 inch from the bottom of the bore. You got my curosity up, and I remembered feeling this with my cleaning rod, and seeing how the guns had never been fired, before me, I figured this must be the case.

 

[Prairieofthedog]

Hadden West,I measured mine too and that is exactly where I feel the resistance.I don't know why you would feel that joint unless there is a gap.Hopefully not.I'm just going to scrub the heck out of the breech area and start shooting it.I don't think it is going to cause any problems.Got to get it dialed in for Tree Rat season LOL!

 

[don hepler]

You're going to love the 36. Good luck huntin.