Shipping Percussion Rifle from US to Canada

[Mangonboat]

I want to send a nice reproduction percussion rifle to a friend in Alberta as a gift. I've read the latest Canadian laws and regs and it appears that as long as I apply for and obtain an Authorization to Transfer (ATT) and send that paperwork along with the gun, I can mail it from my local post office to Alberta via USPS and Canada Post and my friend can present his Possession and Acquisition License (PAL) and sign for delivery at his local post office and that's all there is. But the regs repeat about fifty times the admonition that if the paperwork is not complete and all the requirements are not met, the recipient has 14 days to get everything straightened out or the gun is confiscated and destroyed. For what the gun is worth and what shipping is certain to cost, that would be a real gut punch. So I'll try to learn all I can up front and talk it through with USPS and Canada Post.

Toward that education, has anyone sent a BP rifle from US to Canada recently ( the laws and regs changed in January 2022)? Any pointers?

Thanks in advance.

 

[Rifleman1776]

Hope it works for you. I have had terrible luck shipping/mailing anything to Canada. Ditto for Australia.

 

[Omahkapi'si]

I’d do lots of homework on that one. Might be wrong but don’t think Canada Post Will take a firearm.

 

[Nor Cal Mikie]

The question is? Is it a firearm?? Not so in California and I wonder about any other states.
I do know, trying get ANYTHING into Canada or Oz can be a waste of time.

 

[hawkeye2]

I sold an H&A underhammer to a member in Canada back in 2017. I shipped it USPS international with an accurate description. I had to declare a value for customs and since it was insured the two values had to match. The recipient had to pay customs fees but other than that there were no complications, at least for me, and absolutely no paperwork for me to fill out other than the customs form on my end. It was probably easier than shipping it to some of the states.

 

[Rod Man]

Yeah, I don’t know. Heck I had to argue with a lady at FedEx to send my Lyman yesterday. The supervisor had to break out his book. If it hadn’t been broken down and in its Original box and cover box they probably would not have taken it. Everyone one is literally “Gun” shy.

RM

 

[Omahkapi'si]

A percussion rifle is classified in Canada as a non-restricted firearm. A flintlock rifle is classified as an antique. Both are classed as restricted if in pistol form. You can google RCMP firearms rules if you want to.

 

[jimairwin]

The question is? Is it a firearm?? Not so in California and I wonder about any other states.
I do know, trying get ANYTHING into Canada or Oz can be a waste of time.

I tried to buy a Whitworth barrel from a guy in Oz, but doing so proved almost impossible.
Good luck.

 

[Nor Cal Mikie]

Sister married a "well to do" Canadian, made quite a few Lady friends there.
Sent a silk blouse as a gift to one of her Lady friends in Canada from the U.S. Never got there. Customs strikes again!!

I sent a tactical shot gun stock to a guy in OZ. Sent it in 2 packages.
Easier to ship that way. First one got there no problem. Second one got picked up in Customs, they went after the intended receiver. Treated him like a terrorist, took his computer and beat him up pretty bad. NOTHING gets into OZ, not even me.

 

[Rifleman1776]

A percussion rifle is classified in Canada as a non-restricted firearm. A flintlock rifle is classified as an antique. Both are classed as restricted if in pistol form. You can google RCMP firearms rules if you want to.

Ranch, that may be the law. But getting past an arrogant bureaucrat is another matter altogether.

 

[Shotgunblast]

You will have to use a firearms importer like this USA Firearm Import Service

 

[mikeinpa]

Mangonboat,

What laws changed in Jan 22. I looked on the web but couldn't find what you are referring to. I'm heading to Ontario next week and don't want any surprises.

MIke

 

[Shotgunblast]

USA Firearm Import Service this is a link.

 

[smoothshooter]

I want to send a nice reproduction percussion rifle to a friend in Alberta as a gift. I've read the latest Canadian laws and regs and it appears that as long as I apply for and obtain an Authorization to Transfer (ATT) and send that paperwork along with the gun, I can mail it from my local post office to Alberta via USPS and Canada Post and my friend can present his Possession and Acquisition License (PAL) and sign for delivery at his local post office and that's all there is. But the regs repeat about fifty times the admonition that if the paperwork is not complete and all the requirements are not met, the recipient has 14 days to get everything straightened out or the gun is confiscated and destroyed. For what the gun is worth and what shipping is certain to cost, that would be a real gut punch. So I'll try to learn all I can up front and talk it through with USPS and Canada Post.

Toward that education, has anyone sent a BP rifle from US to Canada recently ( the laws and regs changed in January 2022)? Any pointers?

Thanks in advance.

Might want to just send him a nice watch instead.
Save yourself a lot of heartburn.

 

[smoothshooter]

I want to send a nice reproduction percussion rifle to a friend in Alberta as a gift. I've read the latest Canadian laws and regs and it appears that as long as I apply for and obtain an Authorization to Transfer (ATT) and send that paperwork along with the gun, I can mail it from my local post office to Alberta via USPS and Canada Post and my friend can present his Possession and Acquisition License (PAL) and sign for delivery at his local post office and that's all there is. But the regs repeat about fifty times the admonition that if the paperwork is not complete and all the requirements are not met, the recipient has 14 days to get everything straightened out or the gun is confiscated and destroyed. For what the gun is worth and what shipping is certain to cost, that would be a real gut punch. So I'll try to learn all I can up front and talk it through with USPS and Canada Post.

Toward that education, has anyone sent a BP rifle from US to Canada recently ( the laws and regs changed in January 2022)? Any pointers?

Thanks in advance.

Don’t do it.
You had better double-check costs again. You or your friend may get a nasty surprise.He could be required to pony up several hundred dollars for some kind of additional fees,
You should be aware that Canada is in the process of enacting some REALLY severe new gun restrictions any week now.

I would not try to ship ANYTHING to Canada. Especially any kind of gun.
Same goes for 3 or 4 American states too.
The safest way to avoid disappointment is to assume that shipping anything to Canada is illegal.
Even a box of cookies.

 

[smoothshooter]

Ranch, that may be the law. But getting past an arrogant bureaucrat is another matter altogether.

You are 100% right on that.
I have some personal experience with that, and it was only a short business trip for my employer.
It was about 4 years ago, and I swore I would never go back.
And I haven’t.

 

[smoothshooter]

I sold an H&A underhammer to a member in Canada back in 2017. I shipped it USPS international with an accurate description. I had to declare a value for customs and since it was insured the two values had to match. The recipient had to pay customs fees but other than that there were no complications, at least for me, and absolutely no paperwork for me to fill out other than the customs form on my end. It was probably easier than shipping it to some of the states.

I am sure things have gotten worse in Canada since then.
Actually they are getting much worse as I type this.

Socialist governments do not like privately owned firearms, freedom of speech, and other individual rights.

 

[Dale Allen Raby]

There are reasons that nobody selling guns anywhere of any kind will ship to Canada or any other foreign country. Within the US, the best policy is to simply make certain you are in compliance with the law and then not to volunteer any information as to what is actually in the box. Shipping clerks don't care about you, any individual rights you may have or anything else regarding your package other than that it is within the prescribed size and weight. If you tell them it is a gun, you get on their radar really quick, and if it might just possibly get him or especially her fired, he/she will err on the side of caution. If you raise a stink, she can always just say, "he told me it was a gun and I don't know anything about guns".

 

[smoothshooter]

I want to send a nice reproduction percussion rifle to a friend in Alberta as a gift. I've read the latest Canadian laws and regs and it appears that as long as I apply for and obtain an Authorization to Transfer (ATT) and send that paperwork along with the gun, I can mail it from my local post office to Alberta via USPS and Canada Post and my friend can present his Possession and Acquisition License (PAL) and sign for delivery at his local post office and that's all there is. But the regs repeat about fifty times the admonition that if the paperwork is not complete and all the requirements are not met, the recipient has 14 days to get everything straightened out or the gun is confiscated and destroyed. For what the gun is worth and what shipping is certain to cost, that would be a real gut punch. So I'll try to learn all I can up front and talk it through with USPS and Canada Post.

Toward that education, has anyone sent a BP rifle from US to Canada recently ( the laws and regs changed in January 2022)? Any pointers?

Thanks in advance.

DON’T DO IT .

 

[WALT53]

DON’T DO IT .

Brake the gun down and send 1/2 in one package and the rest in another package a day or two after.as for a description just put down gun parts.