Well if someone doesnt try it brfore i get out of the hospital (got to ck in at 1:15 Tuesday) I'll find out here. I was going to try it today, but never got to cutting those balls, a line of wild boar crossed where I was going to try this at, lobed a 610 ball into the biggest of them, knocked him flat ..for a few seconds, then he took off a running for about 40yds across he dry lake bed and fell dead. First one of these Ive seen, very dark grey close to black from front legs forward,tusk about 5" , and smelled :shake: the last 2 yrs East Tex has been over run by wild hogs, but this one was a first for me,took 2 16 yr old stout kids to pick most of him up off the ground, so you can guess what he weighed, I havent a clue. Fred :hatsoff: