This thread is getting way off topic but that's the way they go. The problem with most of our food these days is that it's grown for speed and looks. Store bought tomatoes sure look like tomatoes and they sort of have the right texture but they don't taste like the kind we used to grow. Same thing with pigs and chickens. The pork we raised didn't need anything but a little salt and pepper. The chicken I went out in the yard and knocked in the head, or shot the damn thing with my 22 if it ran too fast, tasted like the real thing. This isn't just an old man living in the past either, the past is another world, we did things different then.