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Looks like a different lock and nose piece? My nose piece is plain cast metal (not brass). I may brown it like I plan to do with the barrel, but I do see a lot of Pendersoli kits that appear to have a brass piece... like yours. Where did you get that?
 
Brazosland-hell yea, I’d be proud of that! Like that holster too... already searching for a pattern for one. I make bags (just for personal use) so I’m ok with leather working.
 
Here are two mountain/plains style pistols I recently completed. The Lyman is pretty much stock with some minor alterations to the hand grip and the area surrounding the breech. The Pedersoli is a major redesign of the Kentucky pistol. Both are .54 caliber.
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Looks like a different lock and nose piece? My nose piece is plain cast metal (not brass). I may brown it like I plan to do with the barrel, but I do see a lot of Pendersoli kits that appear to have a brass piece... like yours. Where did you get that?
That is the lock supplied by Pedersoli I just did some file work on it. The nose cap is not brass it is pored tin didn't like the one supplied so I replaced it with what you see. Had to add a barrel tendon and pin the factory cap had a screw through it that secured the barrel. Changed the sights to ordered some from TOW.

Mike
 
20ga custom built by Lucky Dave. 1st two pictures are when it was brand new, last picture is recent. About a 12 year span between pictures. .590 ball and 35gr 3f makes her sing.
 

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The stock is walnut.
The Queen Anne is a .50 caliber smooth bore without sights so it isn't very accurate beyond 35 to 40 feet.

It also had a problem with reliable ignition. Although the pan would lite, often the main powder charge wouldn't fire.
The bore extends almost all the way to the rear of the barrel ending in a flat bottomed hole. There is no breech plug in the barrel.

I studied the gun and came to realize the reason for the ignition problem was the way Pedersoli made the vent hole.
It is simply a very small hole, drilled thru the barrel wall which is very thick in that area making it very difficult for the flash from the pan to get all the way thru it without loosing a lot of its initial heat.
The small size also made it nearly impossible to get any of the main powder charge powder to work its way out thru this tiny hole.

To try to correct this I decided to enlarge the size of the vent hole so I drilled it out to 5/64". That improved things slightly but it didn't solve the problem. Even for the new .078 diameter hole, the distance the flame needed to travel was too great.

That's when I decided what was needed was a much larger hole connecting the bottom of the bore with the vent so I drilled the vent hole out and installed a vent liner.
The smallest standard vent liner has 1/4" threads on it and the design of the exterior of the barrel in that area has a large cutout to clear the lock's mainspring. That meant I couldn't use a standard liner so I made my own vent liner out of a piece of a #10-32 bolt.
Here's a picture of the area

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To see the whole story, follow this link. The link takes you to a post several posts down from the start so, scroll up to the top to see the whole story.

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The stock is walnut.
The Queen Anne is a .50 caliber smooth bore without sights so it isn't very accurate beyond 35 to 40 feet.

It also had a problem with reliable ignition. Although the pan would lite, often the main powder charge wouldn't fire.
The bore extends almost all the way to the rear of the barrel ending in a flat bottomed hole. There is no breech plug in the barrel.

I studied the gun and came to realize the reason for the ignition problem was the way Pedersoli made the vent hole.
It is simply a very small hole, drilled thru the barrel wall which is very thick in that area making it very difficult for the flash from the pan to get all the way thru it without loosing a lot of its initial heat.
The small size also made it nearly impossible to get any of the main powder charge powder to work its way out thru this tiny hole.

To try to correct this I decided to enlarge the size of the vent hole so I drilled it out to 5/64". That improved things slightly but it didn't solve the problem. Even for the new .078 diameter hole, the distance the flame needed to travel was too great.

That's when I decided what was needed was a much larger hole connecting the bottom of the bore with the vent so I drilled the vent hole out and installed a vent liner.
The smallest standard vent liner has 1/4" threads on it and the design of the exterior of the barrel in that area has a large cutout to clear the lock's mainspring. That meant I couldn't use a standard liner so I made my own vent liner out of a piece of a #10-32 bolt.
Here's a picture of the area

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To see the whole story, follow this link. The link takes you to a post several posts down from the start so, scroll up to the top to see the whole story.

https://www.muzzleloadingforum.com/threads/queen-anne-pistol-vent.19654/#post-209056
 
Thanks Jim I drilled the touch hole out on my 50 to 1/16 to make it more reliable. Have been thinking about the Queen Ann so it looks like you made your counter bore to the touch hole .094 is that correct.
 
Yes. The hole that goes part way thru the home made vent liner was made with a 3/32" (.09325) diameter drill bit (although I did say it was .094 in the sketch).
The hole below it in the barrel that actually connects the vent liner with the bore was made with a #21 tap drill for the #10-32 thread so it is .159 diameter.
 
Yes. The hole that goes part way thru the home made vent liner was made with a 3/32" (.09325) diameter drill bit (although I did say it was .094 in the sketch).
The hole below it in the barrel that actually connects the vent liner with the bore was made with a #21 tap drill for the #10-32 thread so it is .159 diameter.
You did a great job on those pistols they are beautiful !
 
Brazosland-hell yea, I’d be proud of that! Like that holster too... already searching for a pattern for one. I make bags (just for personal use) so I’m ok with leather working.
The holster looks like the one made by The Leatherman. You probably can find better pictures online to use as a guide to make a pattern
 
This is a Pedersoli Harpers Ferry Pistol kit. The walnut stock was stained black using steel wool dissolved in vinegar, and finished with boiled linseed oil.
 

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The first muzzleloader I made was this pistol. .62 smoothie, small siler lock, pretty nice piece of maple that was hard as rock, other than the trigger guard I made all the parts.
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Looking at it now i see a lot of things I would do differently today, especially the stock profile, but that was the way I saw it then and it got me hooked, and It is still fun to shoot!!!!
Robby
 
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