I'm looking at putting a new sight on my T/C Hawken for hunting and was looking at the skinner peep sight. I shoot peeps on my lever gun and like them alot. Wondering if anyone had any experiance with the skinner sight on their flintlocks.
Skinner peep sight
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Well the TC sight is discontinued, and there is a Williams' brand rear sight that's probably a little under 1/2 the price, BUT it looks like it requires drilling and tapping. The Skinner brand says you can simply install it and it looks like there are a half-dozen apertures available...,
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Lyman also makes a nice receiver mounted peep sight, which may require drilling & tapping, depending on the year your gun was made. It also puts the aperture closer to your eye: https://www.lymanproducts.com/bran...ts/lyman-57sml-and-57gpr-receiver-sights.html
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I can't speak to the Skinner sight, but I looked at it on their web site. I think they showed it on a Renegade.
I put the Lyman on my T\C Hawken the year the PGC permitted peep sights on flintlocks. The Lyman is a tang mounted sight and brings the peep up close to your eye.
Another plus of the tang mounted peep is it blocks the pan flash during ignition. If you have a slight flinch when that fire goes off that close to your eye......the tang mount helps take it away.
FWIW
I put the Lyman on my T\C Hawken the year the PGC permitted peep sights on flintlocks. The Lyman is a tang mounted sight and brings the peep up close to your eye.
Another plus of the tang mounted peep is it blocks the pan flash during ignition. If you have a slight flinch when that fire goes off that close to your eye......the tang mount helps take it away.
FWIW
If you have a later model Hawken, Skinner has a peep sight that will screw into the plugged screw hole in the breech plug. This hole was for those that wanted to mount a scope on their guns (sacrilege). The Skinner peep is adjustable for elevation only so you would have to move the front sight for windage. I have a couple of Renegades with this peep arrangement and find it great. The peep is close to the eye, as it should be, and unobtrusive. They also have different size apertures for the peep depending on how you are using the gun (for hunting or target shooting)
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I'm familiar with that tapped hole and always wondered about a peep for it. Close to my eye, that would be the best setup for me.
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kansas_volunteer
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The Skinner peep I see on their site is mounted too far forward to work as a peep should. The T/C tang has a small third hole to be used for attaching one of their peeps, but not for a scope mount. The T/C peep is the best way to go. There are two versions, one with a slight curve to the base to be mounted forward on the tang and one with a flat base to be mounted on the rear of the tang. The flat base brings the aperture a bit closer to the eye and may be more desirable. The Williams sight mounts to the tang using the two front holes. It is a fairly large and nontraditional sight. To mount a peep on the tang you will use one wood screw from the tang and a machine screw that comes with the the Williams, but likely would have to be purchased from a gunsmith parts supplier for the T/C sight. Either sight will cost about the same today.
Check out the Skinner "Low Pro" peep sight. This sight will screw right into the plugged threaded hole in the breech plug of later T/C's. This puts the peep up close to your eye. It only has elevation adjustment.
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I put a Skinner Peep on my T/C Hawken. Works very well. Highly recommend if you want a peep.
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I would never put a modern peep sight on my flintlock.
Here's a verse from a famous poem
We shoot smoothbores now, can't see em rear sights but the front blade is still fairly clear. We load them smoothies with a big round ball and still manage to kill us some deer
Here's a verse from a famous poem
We shoot smoothbores now, can't see em rear sights but the front blade is still fairly clear. We load them smoothies with a big round ball and still manage to kill us some deer
NWTF Longhunter said:
I wuz gonna chide ye for not knowing how older eyes can use the help. But, I noticed, ye got two years on me. :redface: Oh,well. I have a flint rifle in progress now that will sport a Johnson peeper. My club permits them because almost all our members are over the age of 70. My front sight will be a shaded post because our range faces south. The big matches I compete in have flint offhand any metallic sight matches so they will get good use year round. Yes, there were the days when I could boast using them 'authentic' open sights but, sadly, no more.
IMHO those fellows who shot flinters in the 1800's would have used a peep sight if #1-they had 'em and #2-they were cheap 'nuff.
I doubt if any of 'em said "don't use a peep sight 'cause them fellers in the future will have better accuracy....and we don't want that."
I doubt if any of 'em said "don't use a peep sight 'cause them fellers in the future will have better accuracy....and we don't want that."
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And most of them were dead by the time they reached our age, and had quit the life of adventure by the age most of us were wondering if our kids were ever going to leave home. Didn't need reading glasses even, cuzz hell. Most of em couldn't read so strangers on computers could tell them how to run their lives! :rotf:
I seem to keep thinking about a 58 caliber Jaeger style flintlock I passed up at a gun show last spring. If I get another chance on that, I'm going to think very seriously about mounting a low profile peep sight on it.
I have the greatest respect for those who can hit consistent bullseyes with traditional sights, but it's really hard to ignore the difference installing a Lyman aperture on my GPR made with my shooting.
I don't think the Skinner sight would seriously damage the look of a rifle. While making it illegal for Rendezvous matches here, it could potentially make a difference, if presented with the opportunity, of humanely putting moose meat in the stewpot with my high time eyes.
I have the greatest respect for those who can hit consistent bullseyes with traditional sights, but it's really hard to ignore the difference installing a Lyman aperture on my GPR made with my shooting.
I don't think the Skinner sight would seriously damage the look of a rifle. While making it illegal for Rendezvous matches here, it could potentially make a difference, if presented with the opportunity, of humanely putting moose meat in the stewpot with my high time eyes.
I agree. But the front globe I'm putting on, I'm sure, will cause some purists to pucker. But, at my club range a shader is a necessity. BTW: per NMLRA rules, with an open rear and a post front, use of a shader is still considered an 'open' sight and is legal.
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Purists will always find something that they do not like. I like front globe sights.
Question and to no one in particular. There has been some folks in the 2 posts about the Skinner peep sight for T/C who say it is mounted too far forward and a tang peep sight is better.
If a person's eye can focus on an open rear sight, front sight and target, why cannot the eye not focus on the Skinner peep, front sight and target? Seems it would be the same concept. Am I missing something?
I am seriously considering the Skinner peep.
If the rear peeper is too far forward the eye will try to focus on it. Mounted back, you only look through the peeper and focus on the front sight. The eye can focus on only one point at a time.
I'm no expert.Richard Eames said:
I have not trusted peeps in the past. I did acquire a GPR .50 cap lock left hand with a peep. Good shape. May get her dialed in if I can get past mind block and trust my eye to hold center of the hole :youcrazy: If I dont like it it's fer sale :surrender:
