WITHDRAWN Smoothbore Baker Rifle w/Bayonet

[BigSkyRambler]

REDUCED This is a Near Mint, unfired smoothbore replica of the famed Baker Rifle. These are made in India and finished and upgraded by a couple of US companies. The 31" browned barrel has a few minor handling marks and pristine bore. A couple of age spots! Caliber is .62. Two leaf rear sight and brass blade front sight. Hardwood stock is brass fitted and has only minor handling marks. The lock is marked Crown VR and TOWER. It sparks very well and only mark on frizzen is one I made to test. Comes with unsharpened sword bayonet in brass fitted leather scabbard. Bayonet mounts on barrel lug, but is sloppy as I have heard is typical of these. A really nice reenactor piece that could be rifled for better accuracy and competition. $900 + Shipping. These appear to be on backorder at all outlets. Why wait.

 

[BigSkyRambler]

More photos.

 

[Jason holgate]

I always wondered how the India guns were

 

[Walkabout]

What caliber?

 

[BigSkyRambler]

What caliber?

Sorry. It is .62 caliber.

 

[fireman1]

Which importer?

 

[BigSkyRambler]

Which importer?

Not marked, as such. I can look under stock tomorrow afternoon.

 

[Dryball]

You had me until you used the word India.

 

[BigSkyRambler]

You had me until you used the word India.

Read a thread on this very site where a gentleman said his Indian Baker shot better than his custom - and much more expensive - one. YMMV.

 

[Flint62Smoothie]

I always wondered how the India guns were

FWIW I have a Baker made in India and while quality may vary amongst makers over there, it is a faithful replica (less the smoothbore) when put along side TRS built kits, as 2 friends just built TRS ones and they were stunned. But of course mine is a smoothbore, due to Indian export laws that won't allow them to make rifled barrels.

It is what it is, but it has been fine. Proofed the barrel with a double-ball double-charge and all is well ... swell. No changes in measurements, no swelling LOL, and checked to the 0.0001 of an inch. I'm in the process now of getting a rifled barrel for it.

Yes, I had to tune the lock, but then again I've tuned EVERY lock I own less those personally made by Mike Rowe (not the TV 'Mike Rowe') when Mike worked for Danny Caywood.

 

[Dryball]

Read a thread on this very site where a gentleman said his Indian Baker shot better than his custom - and much more expensive - one. YMMV.

Have experienced two Indian made. Locks sucked.

 

[FlinterNick]

FWIW I have a Baker made in India and while quality may vary amongst makers over there, it is a faithful replica (less the smoothbore) when put along side TRS built kits, as 2 friends just built TRS ones and they were stunned. But of course mine is a smoothbore, due to Indian export laws that won't allow them to make rifled barrels.

It is what it is, but it has been fine. Proofed the barrel with a double-ball double-charge and all is well ... swell. No changes in measurements, no swelling LOL, and checked to the 0.0001 of an inch. I'm in the process now of getting a rifled barrel for it.

Yes, I had to tune the lock, but then again I've tuned EVERY lock I own less those personally made by Mike Rowe (not the TV 'Mike Rowe') when Mike worked for Danny Caywood.

Come on man, to say it measures up to a rifle shoppe baker rifle is just nonsense. Rifle shoppe bakers are kits are very nice guns, the patch boxes are the correct lengths, the barrels are right…. American walnut vs. teak…. You’re talking about a completed gun that’s got a shelf value of nearly 3k. Made by a poor builder… they still fetch 1500-2500.

There’s no need to convince yourself you made the right decision, as long as you are happy with the Indian baker that’s all that matters.

FYI I’d get a rifled liner, not a new barrel.

 

[FlinterNick]

Have experienced two Indian made. Locks sucked.

I do a lot of work on Indian locks, they can be made into decent working locks, but aesthetically they don’t measure up to the originals. They’are about a 50% pattern of what they’re supposed or intended to be, and polished parts are wrong,

 

[FlinterNick]

Read a thread on this very site where a gentleman said his Indian Baker shot better than his custom - and much more expensive - one. YMMV.

Custom gun qualities are with the builder, not the parts.

You need to find a builder that knows the gun you’re building, knows the history and pattern.

 

[ColonialRifleSmith]

I do a lot of work on Indian locks, they can be made into decent working locks, but aesthetically they don’t measure up to the originals. They’are about a 50% pattern of what they’re supposed or intended to be, and polished parts are wrong,

I agree. I also do quite a bit of work on India Made Guns. You're correct, most are a loose representation of what they are supposed to be, and the lock needs work to function reasonably. However, after that, they are pretty nice muskets for the price. I personally own several and they do the job. Semper Fi.

 

[BigSkyRambler]

Maybe I should have posted this over in the Smoothbore discussion section.

 

[fireman1]

Still waiting on the importer.

 

[UndeadPoet]

Maybe I should have posted this over in the Smoothbore discussion section.

Gentlemen, This has all been fascinating (and I mean that), but remember this is a for sale ad, and it is being hijacked with a lot of discussion that would probably be better in a different part of the Forum. I’m not trying to be a “hall monitor,” but please let BSR sell his Baker, and only ask further questions/make further comments if you are interested in buying it. Respectfully submitted, ‘Poet

 

[BigSkyRambler]

Still waiting on the importer.

No indication anywhere on gun as to importer, that I can tell. Photos of every mark on barrel. Same 77 or 11 on stock inside inlet areas. If anyone has a clue as to importer, I'm all eyes. But not like in The Crawling Eye.