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Sharpie44

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Here is a video of me seeing how fast i can load my .50. It would take me quite a bit longer to load my .54 Kentucky long rife.

My vidio

The reason I'm posting this is because i don't hang out with other black powder shooters. I leaned from family members who don't shoot them very often so I could be doing something wrong. So any tips or tricks would be appreciated.
 
Just my 2 cents worth, but that guy in the beginning is going to have a ramrod splinter and go thru his hand one day.
 
Widow's Son said:
Just my 2 cents worth, but that guy in the beginning is going to have a ramrod splinter and go thru his hand one day.

thats two votes for putting a ramrod through his hand.

you need to find a club or something near by. y'all have so many bad habits already. if i had been there that day, i would have gotten no shooting done i woulda been busy trying to get you squared away and safe

heres speed loading for real http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJMbxZ1k9NQ

get away from that bench, and work out of a bag and your speed will come way up.
 
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You both earned points for not pushing the rod down with the palm of your hands, but a hard, steady push choked up on the rod beats a running smash & hammer for rod life expectancy and less damage to the muzzle and face of the ball.

You could also load a LOT faster by making up pre-lubed & patched balls in a ball block.

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Huntin Dawg made this beauty for me - no idea why the image looks like it's seen through Predator's eyes.
 
Your video of the Continental is an excellent one to show guys who laugh at safety concerns when they propose blowing down the barrel between shots and say they would certainly know whether the gun had gone off. He lowered the Bess and then it went off, so I guess he thought the shot was away.

Shows how things get muddled in the heat and excitement of shooting. Better to be slow and steady: slow is smooth, smooth is fast.
 
Yep your gonna get hurt that way. Go to a Rondy and watch some of the trekkers load. try not to use the bench or table. You'll get better loading from a block or from your bag.
 
I think you'd be doing everyone a favor if you took that video down, learned a little more, then taking what you've learned and make another better video. :v
 
Geeez I'm slow. If I fire 20 shots over the course of an hour I consider it fast shooting!
 
I was just seeing how fast i could do it because Andrew "the other guy in the vidio" asked and i didn't know.
 
I'm not sure what your saying. I swab out the gun after every shot so there is no chance it's going to go off when i load it the next time.
 
I was commenting on Karwelis' link to the guy rapid-firing the Bess.

With a flintlock there is always a chance. They will go off without a prime if there is a charge in the barrel from the few kernels of powder that slip into the vent channel & pan. I noted you stopped and looked at the cock and frizzen and seemed to hesitate as they were both forward. Slapping that frizzen back on a forward cock will get you sparks. Get in the habbit of taking the cock back to half-cock immediately after the shot. You should be able to follow the "treat every gun as a loaded gun" rule throughout your loading sequence. Someday, someone may hand you a gun you think is in step 1 when it's in step 4. Good habits can save a lot of grief down the road.
 
I know you were trying your "speed" loading but you were grabbing the ramrod much to far above the muzzle before you rammed the ball.

Watch your video and notice how much the ramrod bent as you were ramming the ball.

That is a prime way to break a ramrod and if it does break it will ram its sharp end clear thru your hand.
 
To me, the slow easy pace that I take with my muzzleloaders is part of the enjoyment.

While the others are firing 50-80 shots in 15 minutes, I'm firing a shot at a rate of about 1/minute.

While they are spraying slugs all over the range, I'm poking holes in the black (much to their amazement).

While they are shooting up a small fortune's worth of ammunition, I'm not spending enough to buy a fair meal at the local diner.

Personally, I think I'm the winner.

Getting back to the idea of speed loading with a muzzleloader there is no need to do it.
We aren't at war with these things and if hunting, in my opinion, there is no need to rapidly reload there either.

Even with deer hunting, if the deer doesn't go down with the shot it is best to take your time reloading and give the game time to stop running.
If the shot was well made you will find it not far away and usually dead.
 
Based on the length of the rod you used and the fact that the field rod is in the thimbles, I'm guessing you consider that longer rod to be a "range rod". It's not! :shocked2: Don't know what it's made out of, but it's way to flexible. If you cut it off to field rod length it might be useful.

Get yourself a real range rod made of brass or steel rod with a good handle and bore guide on it.

If you are going to shoot precut patches, there is no reason to use the short nub on the starter and then go to the long end. Just use the long end alone. Keep it in direct alignment with the bore and it will pretty much start your ball with one slap. Also, the long end of your short starter is a bit short. That's why your buddy was having trouble when he switched to the rod.

Also, if you are in the field hunting or woodswalking, you will not want to drag a range rod along. In that case you will be using the rod in the thimbles which will only extend out the muzzle a distance equal to the length of the powder charge and ball. It will be a recipe for an injured palm! One thing you can do is drill a hole in one side of the starter ball that is just a bit larger than the diameter of your rod. That way when you get the ball down onto or very close to the powder you can put the ball over the rod with the rod inside that hole. Much easier on the hand and easier to get the ball tight on the powder.

After priming the pan, you guys did not put a cap or cover over the powder container. I know, it's a very small hole! Also, you were stepping out away from the bench and putting some distance between yourself and the container and that's a good thing. Especially when shooting a flinter, a spark could go down that little bitty hole and set off the powder container.

Not trying to be overly critical, just some ideas for you guys.
 
hanshi said:
I hear ya'. At the range it takes me from 3 to 4 hours to fire 50 rounds.

Hanshi, at that rate you are a speed-demon compared to me! :hatsoff: I'm lucky to get 15 or so off in a couple or three hours. But then I like to stroke, caress, look at, stare at my flintlock taking in as much of it as I can. Few minutes looking for the patch to read the previous shot. Quick clean a la Dutch between shots. Actually talk to other people at the range (they are nice folks). RELAX, TAKE MY TIME, PAY ATTENTION WHILE LOADING, ENJOY THE WHOLE EXPERIENCE. :grin: :grin: and :)
 

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