Speed switching interchangeable cylinders for 1858 Remington.

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Blizzard of 93 said:
Cabela's used to carry spare s/s Pietta '58 cylinders, I ordered one from them for my Pietta 'Buffalo'. I had to do some fitting which I accomplished with 150 grit paper layed atop a pane of glass and being slow&CAREFUL.
you need about 5(min)-10(max)thou clearance cylinder to forceing cone.

I did the same thing for mine, ordered them from Cabelas but I used 400 grit paper on mine.

As far as the cylinder pin is concerned I usually have a cloth handy where I'll give the pin a quick wipe between cylinders & have fired more than 90 rounds through my little Pietta '58 in one day with little more than just wiping the pin & cylinder face off & about every 30 or so rounds run a wet then dry patch through the bore.
 
Fastest way I found to change a cylender on a remington 1858 is to put the hammer on half cock, then swap them, its faster and easy'r to do when your not mess'n with the hammer and try'n to get the loaded cylender in.
 
TANSTAAFL said:
David Teague said:
He talking about dropping the capped cylinder on the ground... not the gun.

A woops onto a hard surface cap first could be a bad thing... :shocked2:


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Myself, I have never felt the need to wear both suspenders and a belt for fear of my pants falling down.

But I very much doubt when the Remington was used for defense/offence in dire straits, if the user carried a spare cylinder uncapped when his very life may well have depended upon getting the revolver back into action quickly as possible.

Hello TANSTAAFL,

"Myself, I have never felt the need to wear both suspenders and a belt for fear of my pants falling down."
No need to be condescending about it. :shake:

When I drop a 1911 magazine on the ground I have no fear of getting shot.

When I used to swap precapped fitted cylinders in and out of my Colt Dragoon back in the mid 80's I didn't think too much of it then either... until I showed up at a Cowboy shooting match a few years later and they made me cap em after the swap for safety.

My answer after that match? Carry 2 revolvers. Much faster.

"But I very much doubt when the Remington was used for defense/offence in dire straits, if the user carried a spare cylinder uncapped when his very life may well have depended upon getting the revolver back into action quickly as possible. "

I didn't know we had to risk life and limb today when "speed shooting" our cap & balls.

You can apply that same logic to Flint muskets, muzzleloading cannons, and many other black power weapons of war. We aren't fighting today for our lives for King, country, honor, or in the streets of a dusty cow town so we can sponge and swab the bore of the cannon between shots so we don't kill crew members, we can prime our flint musket last(not first) so we don't blow our own heads off and we can swap out a preloaded cylinder on our cap & ball and then cap it with out dying in a hail of bullets.

In closing, I used to do the whole speed swap of capped cylinders in a Colt, had the wedge fitted so it would pop out with thumb pressure. I had 2 extra cylinders for my Dragoon and worked on going as fast as possible, until the day it dawned on me that I could hurt somebody by being a butter fingers kind of guy. Then it really wasn't a risk I was willing to take.

That was something like 16 years ago...

and the only time I wear both suspenders and a belt, the suspenders keep my pants up and the belt holds my pistols.
 
Don't know about the spare SS cylinders, but if not available, you may be able to use the blued steel ones in your Pietta SS Remy? You could check with Cabela's or Pietta themselves for info.

On the two I got for my blued steel Pietta from Cabela's, they both drop in/out slick as a whistle. If I did not look, would not know them from the original, which has what I assume to be two proof marks on front of cylinder face, while the spares have no marks. I am going to order out two more of the spares, for that 40 bucks each is a hard price to beat.

On the conversion cylinder, as per Lyman Cast Bullet Manual, 3rd edition, standard .45 long Colt, pre-WW II groove diameters normally run .454 and post war ones run .451. I know my Lee conical mould for the Remington drops them as cast at .452 and I would have to drive them down the bore, for no way would they start easy. I use .454 round balls, but they always shave off a healthy lead ring when seating in chambers.

By the third cylinder, things are starting to get a bit sticky from fouling. But a quick wiping down using a oil/water dampened rag, a swab down the cylinder pin hole, lube the cylinder pin, and things are ready to go again.

It only takes a bit of practice for one to become quite proficient at quickly swapping out cylinders.

Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups
 
David Teague said:
TANSTAAFL said:
David Teague said:
He talking about dropping the capped cylinder on the ground... not the gun.

A woops onto a hard surface cap first could be a bad thing... :shocked2:


"
Myself, I have never felt the need to wear both suspenders and a belt for fear of my pants falling down.

But I very much doubt when the Remington was used for defense/offence in dire straits, if the user carried a spare cylinder uncapped when his very life may well have depended upon getting the revolver back into action quickly as possible.

Hello TANSTAAFL,

"Myself, I have never felt the need to wear both suspenders and a belt for fear of my pants falling down."
No need to be condescending about it. :shake:

When I drop a 1911 magazine on the ground I have no fear of getting shot.

When I used to swap precapped fitted cylinders in and out of my Colt Dragoon back in the mid 80's I didn't think too much of it then either... until I showed up at a Cowboy shooting match a few years later and they made me cap em after the swap for safety.

My answer after that match? Carry 2 revolvers. Much faster.

"But I very much doubt when the Remington was used for defense/offence in dire straits, if the user carried a spare cylinder uncapped when his very life may well have depended upon getting the revolver back into action quickly as possible. "

I didn't know we had to risk life and limb today when "speed shooting" our cap & balls.

You can apply that same logic to Flint muskets, muzzleloading cannons, and many other black power weapons of war. We aren't fighting today for our lives for King, country, honor, or in the streets of a dusty cow town so we can sponge and swab the bore of the cannon between shots so we don't kill crew members, we can prime our flint musket last(not first) so we don't blow our own heads off and we can swap out a preloaded cylinder on our cap & ball and then cap it with out dying in a hail of bullets.

In closing, I used to do the whole speed swap of capped cylinders in a Colt, had the wedge fitted so it would pop out with thumb pressure. I had 2 extra cylinders for my Dragoon and worked on going as fast as possible, until the day it dawned on me that I could hurt somebody by being a butter fingers kind of guy. Then it really wasn't a risk I was willing to take.

That was something like 16 years ago...

and the only time I wear both suspenders and a belt, the suspenders keep my pants up and the belt holds my pistols.

Perhaps you missed, or chose to ignore what I prefaced the above with?

I know it doesn't necessarily apply for recreational shooting. But I very much doubt when the Remington was used for defense/offence in dire straits, if the user carried a spare cylinder uncapped when his very life may well have depended upon getting the revolver back into action quickly as possible.
 
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