Speedloader

[Randi Strunk]

Hi everyone just wandering if anyone knows the name of the speed loader that has the short starter built into it I thought it was called ez loader but I'm not sure

 

[Loyalist Dave]

Are you thinking of the TC 4-in-1 Quick Shot ?

IF you want one to start off your hunt, it looks nifty. If you want one because you want a quick second shot..., save your money (imho) as the only time I've ever seen a black powder person able to get a second shot into the same deer/elk/moose was when they had a SxS caplock rifle from Pedersoli..., after they sorta flubbed the first shot.

LD

 

[Randi Strunk]

That's not the one I was talking about however thanks for the reply. The one I'm trying to find was called either e-z or e-c loader, it has four load chambers but you only load three as the short starter slides thru the forth to keep it from rotating

 

[tlallijr]

RMC Magnum EC-Loader

 

[hanshi]

Muzzleloader hunting is pretty much a one shot deal. That's one of the challenges of primitive weapons for hunting.

 

[Archer 756]

:surrender: Most be me I can reload and shoot any one of my flints within 20 seconds, That mean more than one shoot. :v

 

[Vaino]

I mainly agree w/ you, but there are instances where a second, quickly loaded shot is possible.

Went elk hunting in CO and one of our party had a TC Hawken w/ DSTs and a few weeks before the hunt, asked him if he wanted me to convert the DSTs to a 4lb pull single trigger...his answer was no... because he liked the extremely light pull of the DSTs.

Well, anyways he was climbing a steep wooded slope at 10,500 ft elev. when he spotted a nice 6x6 bull at 40 yds. He cocked the hammer {caplock} and as he was brining the rifle up, touched the hair trigger and totally missed the bull. He reloaded while the bull just stood there and again was bringing the rifle up for another shot and as he was bringing the sights down to the ribs, again touched the hair trigger and shot over the back. Hard breathing climbing the slope at that elevation, some nervousness and wearing gloves all could have contributed to the misses. But mainly the DSTs were at fault w/ those circumstances.

So sometimes a quickly loaded 2nd shot is possible.

Shortly after the hunt, the DSTs were converted to a 4 lb, crisp single trigger pull.

If it hadn't been for the extremely light TP he should have had a 6x6 on the first shot and definitely on the 2nd. So a 2nd, quickly loaded shot could have killed this elk.

When I was hunting, whether it be squirrel, rabbit, deer or elk, I didn't use any type of "speedloader", but instead used paper powder packets dipped in canner's wax which were opened w/ the teeth followed w/ the PRB from a loading block and then either capping or priming. I did get 2nd shots w/ this slightly slower loading mainly on squirrels......Fred

 

[coloradoclyde]

Speed increases the risk of damage or personal injury... :td:

 

[Spikebuck]

Speed increases the risk of damage or personal injury... :td:

That depends on what gives the increase in speed. If it's just sloppy procedure to get done quickly, then I agree wholeheartedly. If it's because one has a prepackaged load ready to go instead of measuring out a charge at the time, pulling a patch out of some container, getting a ball out of a pouch...etc, vs having the whole load ready to put the barrel safely, then I disagree. In fact, I'll wager that someone "trying" to be fast under pressure with a totally manual process is more prone to an accident than someone being fast because they were prepared with a pre-measured charge/load ready to go down the barrel.

I always carry a couple of 4-1 TC loaders in my pocket...just in case. These have a pre-measured load for the rifle I'm carrying and a patched roundball right in front of the built in starter. Completely safe, but much faster than a completely manual loading process. :thumbsup: Now, I have never needed a quick second shot, but I like being ready just in case.

 

[coloradoclyde]

then I disagree. In fact, I'll wager that someone "trying" to be fast under pressure with a totally manual process is more prone to an accident than someone being fast because they were prepared with a pre-measured charge/load ready to go down the barrel.

That actually supports my statement.... :haha: ..
As speed increases, risk increases....Whether you use a speed loader or not it makes no difference.

 

[Okie Hog]

This is the Traditions speed loader:


There is a short starter and holders for a #11 cap and a musket cap.

i hunt with patched round balls. Those speed loaders work very well for me.

 

[rdstrain49]

Seems to me that the faster you load, the more likely you are to run into a smoldering ember. So to be safe wipe between shots, hence load slower. The British are indeed not coming, what's yer rush?

 

[fleener]

poor guy did not ask if he should use a speed loader or not.

Fleener

 

[coloradoclyde]

poor guy did not ask if he should use a speed loader or not.

Fleener

And I wasn't telling him if he should or shouldn't..... :youcrazy:

 

[hanshi]

Fessing up, I'll admit I've gotten second shots a time or two but I am not fast. I often carry separate charges in "speed loaders" I made from pvc pipe with caps on the ends. It's much faster than horn and measure and actually does save time. But "speed" and flintlocks are kind of at cross purposes. I'm slow; glacial slow. But still if I can get my rifle reloaded under a minute I feel like Speedy Gonzales. Twenty seconds? It takes me that long just to uncork and pour in powder; twice that long to get a prb down the tube. For me, that's blazing quick. :hmm:

 

[cadb6942]

I use the speedloaders that have the spot for the sabot on the second side. I can get 80 grains in both sides i have three so thats 6 measured charges. Thats were the biggest mistakes will be made when your excited. I load the ball from the pouch.

 

[coloradoclyde]

Once I pulled the trigger on my flintlock aiming at a squirrel and it just went clank.....That squirrel sat there on a branch and watched me change the flint.....He wasn't so lucky on the second pull of the trigger...

 

[Loyalist Dave]

Most be me I can reload and shoot any one of my flints within 20 seconds, That mean more than one shoot

And in that time the average white tailed deer can travel 400 yards, so unless it's wounded to the point of crippling..., even if it's effective speed is reduced by half, that's 200 yards. So I don't doubt you could get your rifle to fire in 20 seconds or less.... I can get my musket loaded in 15 seconds....scoring a killing hit is usually quite the different matter.

LD

 

[coloradoclyde]

I got two shots off once at a deer.....both missed...

 

[Kansas Jake]

Me too. Worse yet, my daughter, who was about 8 years old at the time, witnessed the whole thing. I broke the ramrod trying to load a third round as the deer casually walked away. :cursing: