stuck jag??

[kingsax26]

pulled a bonehead move. somehoe lost the cleaning jag with attached patch in the barrel. the jag is all the way in against the breech. The touch hole is blocked by said jag and patch. Any suggestions

 

[Zonie]

IMO, if the jag is tight against the breech plug face and it is covering the vent hole, removing the breech plug is the only thing that comes to mind.

This assumes the vent hole is in the side of the barrel and it feeds directly into the bore.

If the gun has a chambered breech or Patent breech where the jag really isn't covering the channel that leads to the bore, adding a few grains of powder thru the vent hole and shooting the jag out will work nicely.

 

[Obi-Wan Cannoli]

assuming you can not remove the barrel and unscrew the breech plug for some reason:

spray wd-40 down the barrel to saturate the patch and then carefully shake it out. or try screwing the rod back on the jag

 

[kingsax26]

the breech is flat...looks like i will have to take it to my local gunsmith to pull the breech... i dont have a barrel vise....

 

[Kansas Jake]

If it was me, and I've lost a jag too, I would take a small needle or something small through the touch hole and see if the patch/jag could be moved or just a little room could be made to get a few grains of powder in there to move the jag ahead. I hate the idea of pulling the plug and all the trouble that involves.

 

[necchi]

spray wd-40 down the barrel to saturate the patch and then carefully shake it out.

Whaa? :hmm: :shocked2:

 

[Onojutta]

Even though its blocking the touch hole, you still may be able to pressurize the chamber to force it out with one of those contraptions that allows you to blow compressed air or CO2 into the touch hole.

Warning. Have the muzzle pointed in safe direction when you do this as the jag may become a projectile.

 

[crockett]

See if you can find a tube that fits into the barrel. Inside the tube a string or wire with a noose. Fit over jag and MAYBE you can snag the jag somehow and pull it out.
Just an idea- a lot easier that taking off the breech plug.
Another idea- not sure on this....Same tube with epoxy putty inside- push over jag- wait for the putty to harden and try to pull out.

 

[Rifleman1776]

Try hanging the barrel so muzzle is pointing downward. Then whack on muzzle end with a brass hammer. You may be able to jog the jag away from the breech face enough to get some powder behind it to shoot out.

 

[crockett]

Might also create sort of a heavy duty patch puller made of thicker wire.

 

[toddbro]

Might also create sort of a heavy duty patch puller made of thicker wire.

Had this happen a couple weeks ago and did something similar after pulling the wire off of two worms. Took a .22 brass slotted tip and dremeled off on side leaving a J shape, sharpened the end of the J and cut a couple barbs in it, looked liked a fish hook. Worked great, as long as you have patch to grab it should work for ya.

 

[SDSmlf]

If your touchhole has a threaded liner in a standard size (1/4-28 for example), there might be a way to get jag off the breach face. Get yourself a hollow set screw (a brand name is Mac-it) and install it in place of your liner. You will then have a pivot point (inside diameter of the hollow set screw) that you can work a small pry tool against jag to get it off the breach without damaging the touch hole threads in the barrel. Once you have created an air space between jag and the breach you are home free. Pack it with powder and shoot it out, or even better, pump it out with a grease gun - the mess from the grease and extra effort to clean up the barrel will give you plenty of time to reflect on how you created the problem in the first place.

 

[kingsax26]

thanks all, I have tried the co2 discharger with no luck. im just going to take it to the gunsmith today...

 

[Chevythunderman]

Probably a good idea to take it to the gunsmith. Sometimes the best solution is to take it to a professional. I'm the worlds worst as to admitting to defeat but sometimes when your beat your beat!!

 

[vulture]

Try removing the barrel from the stock, put some fine oil down the bore and then place something soft, like a couple of layers of leather, or some rubber matting on the floor, turn the barrel muzzle down and slam it down on the soft pad, I believe it is kinetic energy we are talking about here but I have seen it loosen a round stuck solid in an M-16 in the middle of a firefight in Viet Nam. All you need to do is move it forward enough to get some powder in behind it and then push it back down on the powder. This might not work but trying will beat the heck out of removing the breach plug if it does.

 

[hoochiepapa]

Have you tried screwing the ramrod back on???

 

[vulture]

Don't you just hate it when some one finally suggests the obvious. If he can't get the original ramrod to thread back on there might be a chance that a cleaning rod with the correct thread configuration could be threaded onto the jag and then pulled out.

 

[kingsax26]

while it was suggested, what was not obvious was that the threaded end of the jag was covered by the patch....so no, I could not thread it back on. dont you think that if I was able i would ahve tried that? However, I did take it to my LGS and he pulled the breech, popped the jag out....laughed at me. we shared some stires, talked about the good ole days and I went home..all is well now

 

[Col. Batguano]

Could something rather akin to a wire nut be fashioned, with a decreasing thread that starts wide, and then gets smaller and smaller the deeper in to the thread you go, kind of like a reverse e-z out for broken screws and bolts.

 

[Zonie]

Sure but while someone was making this non-existent tapered internal threaded device, Bryon is driving down to his local gun shop.

By the time your centering the stock in the chuck, sitting the compound feed table at the right angle, setting the cutting tool and starting to try to cut the thread, he is back home with his fixed gun. :rotf: