Swamped barrel views.

[Davemuzz]

Ok, can anyone link me to a picture of how a swamped barrel looks when installed in the stock? Straight barrels are easy to find.....but I would like to see a swamped install from the top.

 

[don hepler]

I don't have a picture, but a swamped barrel is big on both ends and small in the middle. A little bigger at the breech end. There's a good bit of curve as you look down from the top. If you just hold the rifle up, you won't notice much. However, the way it handles is a lot of difference. A short straight barrel and a small straight barrel is not too bad.

Hopefully someone has a picture.

 

[TerryK]

Colerain has dimensional drawings in the link.
http://www.colerainbarrel.com/barrel_diagram.html

 

[B.Habermehl]

Just remember the drawings are exaggerated for clarity. BJH

 

[Spikebuck]

Here's three of mine I had "kinda" top views of. On long barrels, it's hard to get a good full top view. Hope these help. The forum isn't allowing the range of pic sizes we once had, which also makes it more difficult.

If I knew EXACTLY what you might be trying to look for in the view, perhaps I have a more detailed pic that would help.


44" Rice

31" Rice

44" Green Mountain

 

[George]

I have an original smooth rifle with a swamped barrel 50 inches long, and you can't tell it's swamped. It's hard to see even for me, and I've had it for years and have measured it carefully. That's the only swamped barrel I have any experience with, but I suspect that is typical of the way the old boys did it.

Taking pictures of my barrel from the top is very difficult because of its length and the need to have both sides of the barrel and the stock lighted so they show. I managed one ...maybe... useful shot of it this afternoon but I won't post it now. With the limit to photo size set so small on the forum it would be a waste of time, you couldn't see anything helpful. It might not even work if we could post larger pictures, it's a tough thing to show. If the limit is increased, I'll consider posting the shot then.

Spence

 

[MSW]

if the underlying question is "should i go the added expense of getting a swamped barrel," i would urge you to do for it: the added cost is well worth it!

 

[Flint62Smoothie]

if the underlying question is "should i go the added expense of getting a swamped barrel," i would urge you to do for it: the added cost is well worth it!

I 2nd that! Good advice for sure.

Personally, I’m DONE with any straight octagonal barrel over 34” ...

 

[BigBoreBLR]

I bought a TVM early virginia kit with a 42" 13/16ths straight 45 cal barrel. Too nose heavy. I cut it to 36". Best thing I did to that kit....

So short and small, or go swamped......

 

[Davemuzz]

Hopefully someone has a picture.

Yeah. I guess I was looking for a pic of a swamped barrel. I have all the parts to begin the build of a Lehman "type" rifle. (I'm not a guy who needs historical accuracy to the "T". I just like what I like.) Well. my last piece I need before I build is the barrel and tang.

My stock is pre cut for a straight octagon barrel and I was wondering if I could "change in mid-stream" and somehow install a swamped barrel in a stock that's cut for a straight barrel.

I didn't want to "disclose" this as I though I would come across looking a bit "dumb"....but what the hey.... ....it's not like I'm the brightest light bulb in the hardware store!! :shocked2: :shocked2: :rotf:

 

[okawbow]

I doubt if you can put a swamped barrel into a stock that is cut for a straight barrel. The breech end of the swamped barrel is normally over 1", and the waist area might only be 3/4".

I think many if not most Lemans had straight barrels.

 

[Herb]

You can see a photo of a swamped barrel in my story "A Utah Pronghorn Hunt" in the Hunting Journal. The 32" Rice Jaeger barrel is 1.125" at breech and .970 at muzzle, but only .815 in the swamped waist. So if a swamped barrel is smaller than your stock barrel inlet, you would have a gap along the middle of the barrel in the forestock. You can look at barrel dimensions on the Rice webpage, and probably Track of the Wolf shows them, too.

 

[Spikebuck]

My stock is pre cut for a straight octagon barrel and I was wondering if I could "change in mid-stream" and somehow install a swamped barrel in a stock that's cut for a straight barrel.

Well....if you have not touched that stock, one option would be to check with whomever you bought it from to see if you can swap it out. Some will take a stock back if it has not been worked on.

One could try to "build up" the part of the cut out barrel channel that is too wide with thin strips of matching wood, then inlet the swamped barrel, but that would be a lot of work to do and remember that you are dealing with each of the five octagon flats that touch the stock, not just the two side ones...although a bedding compound could be used to fill those not seen. Lots of IF's...I just mention it because it might be POSSIBLE, though probably out of the realm of what anyone would want to deal with, and the results may not be what you want.

 

[bender20]

Or you can get a swamped barrel that's smallest dimension is the same size or larger than the barrel channel.

 

[Davemuzz]

I think this answers my question. I thank you gent's :hatsoff: for all of your response's. As always, this forum is a great resource!!

 

[hanshi]

This is the best photo I have of a swamped barrel. A "B" wgt Green Mountain .40.