T/C 45 cal

[Basspunky]

Need advice. T/C 45 cal. with no markings? No Serial number. I posted pic here... "

T/C 45 cal

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• Start dateToday at 9:31 AM

 

[sussexmuzllodr]

If its unmarked how do you know what make it is?

 

[Basspunky]

I don’t. That’s why I’m asking about it. I was told by the seller it is a T/C. But I thought it should be marked such. He wants $350 for it. I’m just trying to find out any info or ideas concerning it. And was wondering if all T/Cs were marked as such. Thanks for replying.

 

[SDSmlf]

Welcome to the forum from North Carolina.

Difficult to give advice with no markings, no serial number and no pictures. Your link appears to possible be to a private conversation (aka PM) that only you and those included in the conversation would be able to see.

 

[sussexmuzllodr]

pull the barrel off and check it completely. Might have been defarbed at one point

 

[Basspunky]

Ok. Thanks. Let me send some pic. I’m new to this forum stuff and probably posted it wrong. I’m not sure what make only going by the sellers info. I would think if it was a T/C it would be marked as such. I’ve looked all over barrel for any markings. None.

 

[SDSmlf]

Looks like an older TC based on the style of the ****. Identifying markings would be on the barrel flats near the breech, or as @sussexmuzllodr pointed out, the markings may here been removed by a previous owner. The bore condition would really determine the value in my opinion. Do you have access to the gun?

 

[Grenadier1758]

The lock, patch box and trigger guard all appear to be T/C. The rear sight is not T/C. It is possible that the barrel is a replacement that is not serialized. Remove the barrel and see if there are any markings on the bottom flat.

 

[Basspunky]

Yes I have the gun with me. Took those pics this morning. I’ll check under the barrel for any markings and post shortly. Thanks for your help.

 

[Grenadier1758]

I have a rifle with a T/C percussion lock, T/C triggers, T/C trigger guard and a Sharon barrel. Of course mine doesn't really look like a T/C for a variety of reasons, but barrel exchanges do happen.

 

[Basspunky]

Ok I pull the barrel. It looks like it is stamped “GLTZ” and under that for sure it says “BEAVERTOWN, PA .45 1/38”
17732” Here is pic taken through magnifying glass.

 

[Basspunky]

Maybe it’s “GETZ”.

 

[ord sgt]

The lock, stock and furniture are all correct to T/C. The barrel would be clearly marked with the maker's name, model and other black powder warnings. Thus, the barrel could be a replacement or someone removed all markings that were stamped into the barrel.

 

[ord sgt]

Getz it is. The barrel has a twist of 1/60". Twist is slow, meant for round ball shooting. Too slow for conical bullets.

 

[Basspunky]

Ok found the markings under the barrel. It says: “GETZ. BEAVERTOWN, PA”
#: “17732”

 

[Basspunky]

Getz it is. The barrel has a twist of 1/60". Twist is slow, meant for round ball shooting. Too slow for conical bullets.

Ok Thanks. What does the 1/38” refer too?

 

[ord sgt]

From what I could see in the picture, it looked like 1/60 to me. But you have a better view of the barrel. The marking is the rate of twist. If it does say 1/38, it will shoot either roundball or conical bullets.

 

[Basspunky]

Ok, I verified it says 1/38”. The picture is not very clear I can see it looks like almost like 1/60”.

 

[ord sgt]

The barrel is a good barrel. I have one of their barrels on another flintlock. Good luck with your new rifle.

 

[Basspunky]

Just curious, because I have no idea and never owned one before. Is the MZ worth $350?