T/C Hawken to shotgun

[sleddneck]

hey guy I'm new to thiss forum and was just wonder if I can convert my T/C Hawken to a shot gun. I've wanted a ml shotgun for awhile now and I already have this gun and would like to convert it if possible. :thumbsup:

 

[CoyoteJoe]

Yep, it is often done. You probably won't find a barrel larger than 20ga. There were some imported 12ga barrels but most U.S. barrel makers won't bore a 15/16" barrel larger than 20. I added a 28ga smoothbore to my T/C Pennsylvania Hunter. My barrel came from Jack Garner and is straight Octagon up to the forend tip, then tapered round to the muzzle. It makes a light (6 1/4#) shotgun. I sometimes think I should have gone with a 20ga but actually the 28 does all I need.

 

[roundball]

hey guy I'm new to thiss forum and was just wonder if I can convert my T/C Hawken to a shot gun. I've wanted a ml shotgun for awhile now and I already have this gun and would like to convert it if possible. :thumbsup:

Green Mountain Barrel company makes several different caliber rifle & smoothbore "drop-in" barrels for the TC Hawken & Renegade...virtually a clone of a TC barrel.

As far as smoothbores go, they make a .54cal(.28ga) and a .62cal(.20ga)...I have Flint versions of them both in Hawken stocks, excellent performing barrels.

 

[sleddneck]

thanks for the quick reply. how hard is it to change the barrel and do you have a part number or sorce for the barrels. I ahve tried looking for a drop in barrel but am not having any luck. I need alot of help finding this stuff guys. thanks again...

 

[taylorh]

If you contact "Pork Chop" I think he can help you out with a barrel to convert your renegade to a shotgun.
Taylor in Texas

 

[roundball]

thanks for the quick reply. how hard is it to change the barrel and do you have a part number or sorce for the barrels. I ahve tried looking for a drop in barrel but am not having any luck. I need alot of help finding this stuff guys. thanks again...

Call Ed Cain at Cains Outdoor in West VA...they just got several of each from GM and they are on a clearance sale of $160 including shipping.
The .54cal is a 15/16" and fits a .45/.50cal TC Hawken stock;
The .62cal fits the 1" and fits a .54/.58cal TC Hawken stock;
[url] www.cainsoutdoor.com[/url]

 

[sleddneck]

i went to Cains site but i didn't see them. how hard is it to buy the parts and assemble the barrel myself (ie. what would i need)? what are some good sites for parts?

 

[roundball]

i went to Cains site but i didn't see them. how hard is it to buy the parts and assemble the barrel myself (ie. what would i need)? what are some good sites for parts?

Not on their site, that's why I said to call the owner Ed Cain.

Not qualified to answer the 2nd question...check with the boys in the 'builder's' section.

 

[CoyoteJoe]

Not very hard. I'd get the barrel first so you will know the proper breechplug thread. I'd get a half round/half octagon barrel since a straight octagon barrel makes a very muzzle heavy shotgun.
If percussion you will need a T/C style bolster breechplug of the proper size and thread to fit your barrel, available from Track of the Wolf. Flint is easier and cheaper, just a bolt from the auto parts store to match your barrel threads, run in tight, then hacksaw and file the protruding bolt to fit your breech tang.
You will also need an under rig and ramrod thimbles which will be soldered to the barrel and an under-lug which can either be dovetailed to the barrel or a staple type which is staked into holes drilled in the bottom barrel flat.
Then a small front sight can be soldered on near the muzzle and suit yourself as to blueing, browning or just leave it white.
I'd suggest you call Track of The Wolf, tell them what you want to do and they can fix you up with what you need, they can even install the breechplug, underlug, rib, thimbles and sight-- for a fee of course. They are good and helpful folks. :grin:

 

[Mad Professor]

Don't forget the GM 62 cal drop in barrels are 1 inch across the flats, you can get the 54 in 15/16.

Another option is to find an original TC 56 cal smoothbore barrel, this should drop right in to a 1 inch stock.

There was a a 12 ga barrel made by Toledo that has been discontinued. These looked like a nice setup, octagon till the end of the stock then tapered round to the muzzle. Must be pretty light with the 12 ga bore and taper. One just sold on ebay but the winning bid was to high for me to consider.

 

[Rabbit]

I used to have a Toledo barrel for an old T/C Hawken I had. They threw a good pattern but boy do they make the gun kick since it really lightens it up. I was shooting trap with it but just too much kick. If you just want to hunt with it not bad though. I bet these barrels are hard to find though. Probably why it went for so much. 20 years ago they went for like $60.

 

[buttonbuck]

I ordered a 62 smooth bore in percussion from cains today after reading this forum. I called green mtn and they are being discontinued. I doubt money wise you could get a barrel assembled from parts for 160.00. I figure I would use it as a shotgun. and hopefully use it to go bowling for deer

 

[CoyoteJoe]

As I recall, I paid $135 for my Jack Garner smoothbore barrel, plus $18 for the rib and a few bucks for ramrod thimbles, front sight and vent liner so about $160 or a few bucks more. The difference is tha I got a half round tapered barrel that makes a total gun weight of 6 1/4 pounds, nicely ballanced. A straight octagon barrel makes an ungraceful and muzzle heavy gun, OK for an offhand rifle but awkward in a shotgun.

 

[Russ T Frizzen]

One thing that you might consider is that crescent buttpiece. It is fine on a rifle, but can be uncomfortable on a shotgun. You have to remember to mount the gun between the shoulder and the bicep. Again not so good on a shotgun. It would be O.K. if your main use was turkey hunting or shooting from a blind, but wing shooting is apt to be awkward. At least that was my experience.

 

[buttonbuck]

so do you think a renegade would be a better option to put a green mountain smoothbore in 62 cal in I have both a hawken and a renegade but would like to pick up a "junker" to put the green mountain barrel into.

 

[Rebel]

For shooting comfort, the Renegade, definately.