t/c hawkens twist rate

[Grenadier1758]

I believe that Thompson-Center and Investarms shared design features and built to the same design dimensions, but the T/C arms were always an American made product.

 

[Rifleman1776]

Don't let anyone tell you that 1-48 will not work with a patched ball. In my limited experience 1-48 can drive tacks with a patched ball.

Right on. IMHO, the 1:48" twist is the best all around choice for prb shooting. Museums I have visited that show nomenclature of it's old originals indicate the 1:48 for 90+% of it's rifles.

 

[Phil Coffins]

Looking threw TCs catalog #1 it doesn’t say the twist in their Hawken or Seneca rifles. (The only rifles they offered then.) Interesting though it states the Patriot pistol in 45 calibre only has a 1 in 48 twist barrel!

 

[Willoughby]

does anyone know where I can source a TC 50 Hawken barrel -mines been put away dirty at least once in its life and the bottom of the bore is oversize -

 

[FishDFly]

Might give e-bay a try.

Also another option is contact The Gun Works. They may have one, they bought all of T/C's inventory.

Also try:

travelersantiquesandtrading.com

He did have some GM drop in barrels last time I asked, but that has been some time ago.

 

[longcruise]

Thompson/Center used the 1 in 48" twist so that the shooter could achieve acceptable accuracy with both the Maxi-Ball or a patched round ball.

Like any type of shooting you need to experiment and work up the load that performs best in your rifle.

I have seen this many times but if memory serves (which is not as good as it use to ), the 1:48 twist was manufactured and marketed quite a while before the maxi was brought out.

 

[bubba.50]

I have seen this many times but if memory serves (which is not as good as it use to ), the 1:48 twist was manufactured and marketed quite a while before the maxi was brought out.

Yep. None other than Jake & Sam used 1 in 48 twist in their barrels & I've never heard them called 'compromises' or 'middle of the road'. You know, Jake & Sam of the somewhat well known Hawken brand?

 

[Bill M.]

You can get .50 TC barrels on Ebay and sometimes drop in GM barrels from Track of the Wolf. Sometimes one for sale on this site. It is a long waiting game to find one at a good price right now. The used ones are sorta drying up, I think. The good news is the .50 is often the cheapest of the used barrel calibers.

 

[OldMaineWoodsman]

I never said Thompson/Center came up with the 1-48" twist, I simply wrote that they used it on their rifle barrels.

This is mentioned in the chapter "Shooting the Minie & Roundball" in the Lyman Black Powder Handbook, as well as the catalog section description of the Thompson/Center Hawken and Renegade in the Lyman Muzzleloader's Handbook.

What I meant by "compromise" is that Thompson/Center recommended both the Maxi-Ball and patched Round Ball for use in their rifles. You can get decent accuracy with either. That's all.

 

[Red Owl]

I maybe wrong but I think the actual Hawken rifles had a 1/48 twist. I have a CVA mountain stalker ($69 special) I bought because it was cheap. It has a 1/32 twist designed for a sabot even though later on a tighter twist came out. In any event, because the cost is less, I tried a patched round ball and backed off a little on the powder charge and it shot fine. So you don't necessarily need a 1/60 twist to shoot patched round balls.

 

[MSW]

if your barrel no longer groups well, you might want to contact Bobby Hoyt ... (717) 642-6696. He does great work at very reasonable prices.