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T/C Renegade..in .58 cal?
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It's funny but the QLA was a coned muzzle and now they are some of the best easiest to load and accuracy in all of the coned muzzles I have are very accurate.
I have not had a QLA rifle but it seems most dont care for it from what I have read.
Owned a few TCs with QLA muzzles (this was a counter bore, NOT a coned bore, two total different animals) and some were more trouble than others, but none of mine shot well. Found that the counter bore at the end of the barrel could be significantly off center from the actual bore centerline. Obviously TC added the QLA feature as a secondary manufacturing operation from machining the bore and did not take the care to make sure the two diameters lined up. Only real solutions I found was either a haircut to shorten the bore (cut off the offending QLA) or rebore a larger diameter QLA in line with the bore using a lathe.
As some folks were pleased with their QLA barrels, TC must have got a few right, just none examples that I and many others crossed paths with.
A QLA and a coned barrel are two completely different animals,
OK I stand corrected. Seeing as I have never owned a QLA or shot one, I was going on printed Info that I read years ago, which I interpreted Thumb start patched ball into what I was familiar with the coned muzzle.
the only thing that is bad is they are a pain in the butt to load with a commercial pre cut patch as the ball tends to slide off to one side and I believe this is what you are seeing as bad accuracy if you cut at the muzzle they are tack drivers at least mine is but it took me a while to figure it out fighting with centering the patch
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I had a .54 New Englander with the QLA. Couldn't believe that TC actually intended to supply them with that flat bottomed counterbore. I even called up the guys in the TC shop and asked them about it. What a kazoo! Nothing would load well in it so I got the thing relined to a .458 bore with .470 groove diameter at 24" twist.
Now it's like shooting a single shot 45-90 with either paper patched or grease groove bullets.
Excellent!
Now it's like shooting a single shot 45-90 with either paper patched or grease groove bullets.
Excellent!
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This morning I'm lapping a TC Hawken rebored to .58 and I'm thinking about coning it before putting it up for sale. Eh, but I'm not too sure exactly how I should go about it. That's gonna be removing a really big amount of metal and my usual means of accomplishing that (emery paper attached to a conical rock in a drill) just isn't going to be very effective. And any beginnings of off center could be accentuated during the prolonged processing.
If anyone has a .58 cone cutter, please, yell at me!
If anyone has a .58 cone cutter, please, yell at me!
longcruise
70 Cal.
I have the Ed Hamberg universal tool. Works on up to .62 cal. I have not used it yet but it has to be a more accurate tool than what you mentioned.
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TC's rebored to .58 with 60" twist and patched ball geometry rifling.
longcruise
70 Cal.
I have two of those. A tc Hawken 50 bored to 54 and a Renegade 50 bored to 58. Best thing that ever happened to those barrels.
