Taylor Uberti better than Uberti?

[Stantheman86]

This is so true. Look at the prices of a bog standard MN 91/30 refurb. the were bringing $500 for a while because lots of young guys played COD or some other first person shooter game with WW2 guns. Recently at my LGS I watched a young kid do a transfer on a Swiss K31 and an Italian M38 w/folding bayonet. The pair was well over 2K. Neither rifle nor bayonet were mint condition. Both were typical of what you can find at a gun show.

Hollywood and the game companies squeezed the life out of WWII for 20 years and they're still squeezing.....they'll crank out loosely historical action movies like MidWay or Fury, and there's probably more WWII games that have been made than anyone can count . They're starting to play around with WWI little bit too

All of this fuels the gun market, absolutely. We've all seen it, or even bought a gun because it was in a cool movie.

The Civil War is a hot topic and Confederates hurt people's feels so we're not likely to get a Civil War big budget movie but Hollywood still loves period movies, one CGI generic shoot em up set in the Mexican War with big name actors using Walkers, and boom we have a new market for Walkers. Even if people don't know or care about the history, if Henry Cavill is riding around with a Walker in each hand blasting away, people will leave the theater or their La Z Boy at home Googling how to order one . A custom gun maker could easily sell high end cap and ballers

Look how repro percussion revolvers started......from movies and the Civil War centennial

Jeremiah Johnson probably sold how many 1000s of Hawkens , that helped the high end custom Hawken makers

It doesn't take much to spark a demand. Romano Rifles makes high end reproduction breech loaders and rifles like Tyler rifles. Someone is buying their stuff or they wouldn't be around. I can't believe no one is making custom percussion revolvers

 

[Stantheman86]

Consumer Reports did a study that proved that clothes made for factory outlets were lower quality products. Any parallels, you think?

There are definitely parallels, there's no such thing as a free lunch. If a gun is $100 less at one particular retailer there has to be a reason . Also these same Retailers have a "no returns " policy on guns

Roll the dice, take your chances

You might roll a decent one

 

[Shiloh]

The only C&B revolvers I’ve seen were Uberti or Pietta. Were are these American made revolvers I keep reading about.

 

[Jim in Wisconsin]

Bad Karma - on those Remington grips, I made a set for my old Navy Arms 44 out of walnut. I made them quite a bit thicker and longer. They cover up the frame on the bottom by a good 1/4 inch. They change the look of the gun, but no more little pinky under the grip stuff!
I wish I knew how to put pictures on here, but this computer crap is beyond me.
hey what the heck - I wrote "computer c r a p" and somehow it changed itself to manure - I hate computers!

 

[Stantheman86]

The only C&B revolvers I’ve seen were Uberti or Pietta. Were are these American made revolvers I keep reading about.

Only the Ruger Old Army so far

 

[GYJ]

The only C&B revolvers I’ve seen were Uberti or Pietta. Were are these American made revolvers I keep reading about.

Yep, only the Ruger Old Army. USFA (USPFA) did some in their early years but they were made from Uberti parts. The percussion revolvers didn't make it to the "all domestic" transition. That said, if I wanted a really fine percussion or cartridge conversion revolver, I'd have someone like "45D" do a full tune job on a Uberti and send it to Turnbull for finish work.

 

[jd945043]

That's the fastest way to shave off a cam because of an ill fitted bolt . . . or scar a cylinder because of cracked / broken hand springs or bolt springs.

A brand new revolver is much easier to tune than one that needs a lot of correction to make up for. A lot of my customers have a new revolver shipped to me before they ever see them.

I was sent a new Pietta 1860 to setup for a magazine article many yrs ago. Before I could get started on it the cam was almost nonexistent. I had to remove the rest of it and install a replaceable cam.
Another thing to check for is a loose arbor (from any manufacturer) it's surprising how many are loose from the factory. The easiest way is with the arbor in a vice, wiggle the frame. If there's play, it won't get better.

Mike

How much do you charge for this work?

 

[jd945043]

Good Lord, man. We're not even talking about the same thing.

Yes we are. If a gun is a quality product then you don't need it worked on by a Smith. The idea is that you need to tune a brand new product is only giving away good money.

 

[Jedidiah]

How much do you charge for this work?

Does it matter? What ever the cost some people will think its too much others will think its OK.

 

[Jedidiah]

Yes we are. If a gun is a quality product then you don't need it worked on by a Smith. The idea is that you need to tune a brand new product is only giving away good money.

I seem to remember that there were a lot of very finely made S&W;s and Colt revolvers pre war models, that NO ONE thought weren't well made with excellent hand fitting and craftsmanship that were tuned for Competition shooters.

 

[jd945043]

Does it matter? What ever the cost some people will think its too much others will think its OK.

 

[jd945043]

Yes it matters. If I spend $400. For a revolver I don't want to spend another $400. To tune it

 

[Jedidiah]

Yes it matters. If I spend $400. For a revolver I don't want to spend another $400. To tune it

like i said, refer to post #189

 

[Capnball]

I am looking for a Uberti 1851 London Navy. Are the Taylor Ubertis worth the extra $60 to $70? Midway has Uberti London for $350, Taylor site they are $419.

I've been to the Taylor shop in VA. They do inspect everything they sell but they're also a full service gunsmithing shop and do upgrades to everything they sell. Top shelf work from a modern, fully equipped shop. That's probably where the premium comes from. It is nice to walk into a show room and see and feel whatever it is you want to buy.

 

[jd945043]

like i said, refer to post #189

That is not them telling me what they charge for the service

 

[fireman1]

That is not them telling me what they charge for the service

Send him a message and ask? I know that sounds crazy but it might work?

 

[jd945043]

You're right!!

I should perfect folks guns for free!!
But I'm not gonna . . .



Mike

How do I contact you

 

[Jedidiah]

How do I contact you

There are "packages" and then there is single items that are worked hourly. I believe. Try "Goons Gun Works"

 

[Will]

Ruger Old Army - Quality debate over.

All kidding aside, folks buy a percussion revolver, and they want it to work. Uberti, Pietta, Armi San Marco, Taylor's, Cimarron, etc. - Each has their plus and minus.

It's kind of like buying a bird dog pup. You do your research, look at the breeding and pedigree, look into the sire and dam, and check the reputation of the breeder. All that, and it is still a gamble.

In the end it comes down to the individual makeup and skills and abilities of the pup and the owner.

Best replica percussion revolver that I have ever owned was a Navy Arms .36 caliber 1858 Remington.

I bought it used.

Perfect. You are inside my head.

 

[Stantheman86]

QUOTE="Capnball, post: 2294372, member: 34040"]
I've been to the Taylor shop in VA. They do inspect everything they sell but they're also a full service gunsmithing shop and do upgrades to everything they sell. Top shelf work from a modern, fully equipped shop. That's probably where the premium comes from. It is nice to walk into a show room and see and feel whatever it is you want to buy.
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I may have to make a trip there