The Great Lubes Test

[hawkeye1755]

First i must say thanks to Sully , who posted this Link on 3/25/06. :bow:
You can see Bore Butter, Olive Oil,Ballistol,Lehigh Valley Lube and other lubes in a 3 months test.
Pics can say more than words.
For me it's the best test i have seen so far.
Link
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[Halftail]

Interesting test.Thanks for posting it. :v

 

[shmrck1]

undertaker,
:hmm: Thanks for the link!
snake-eyes :hatsoff:

 

[Snuffy]

I don't find it important for my patch/bullet lubes to serve as my rust preventative during ML storage months. I use gun oils for that purpose.

 

[Lone Carabiner]

Interesting. I saw that 'tall oil' which I have wondered about is in MOS, and it's in 'GO-JO', my favorite multi purpose 'stuff'.

 

[roundball]

Tests like that are always intersting but don't reflect reality of use...I've never had any rust in 15 years using bore butter in my muzzleloaders.....but then.....I've never left them outside, unprotected, in the elements.

So my test result choices are:

A dozen and a half muzzleloaders using Natural Lube 1000 for 15+ years, in an out of gun cases, in and out of air-conditioned houses & cars, in and out of rain, mist, fog, humidity, etc...with bores still like new?

OR

Some strip of metal that was left unattended in the unprotected outside elements for a day or so?


The answer's a no-brainer...unless / until something else comes along to bump me off course, reckon I'll keep on using Natural Lube 1000...others mileage may vary of course.
:thumbsup:

 

[Black Hand]

Tests like that are always intersting but don't reflect reality of use...I've never had any rust in 15 years using bore butter in my muzzleloaders.....but then.....I've never left them outside, unprotected, in the elements.

So my test result choices are:

A dozen and a half muzzleloaders using Natural Lube 1000 for 15+ years, in an out of gun cases, in and out of air-conditioned houses & cars, in and out of rain, mist, fog, humidity, etc...with bores still like new?

OR

Some strip of metal that was left unattended in the unprotected outside elements for a day or so?


The answer's a no-brainer...unless / until something else comes along to bump me off course, reckon I'll keep on using Natural Lube 1000...others mileage may vary of course.
:thumbsup:

I'm with you on this. I'm not dismissing the real effort that went into this test, and I admire this persons' efforts. However, there are so many other variables that were not controlled for that these data, while interesting, are difficult to interpret. In the end we use what works for each of us.

 

[lakota]

How does WD-40 work to protect barrels from rusting?

 

[Rebel]

Well, some people don't think much of it but it is all i have ever used on mine and i have never had a bit of rust. Ask some of the folks here that have bought used guns from me what condition they were in when they got them.

 

[lakota]

My buddy swears by WD-40. I decided to give it a try. It seems so simple and too good to be true. No outrageous mixing of concoctions, no high dollar gun oil. I am going to stick with it and see what happens.

 

[Lone Carabiner]

Tall oil is also in the
Lehigh valley lube which is effective evidently

 

[renovato]

How does WD-40 work to protect barrels from rusting?

Very poorly. WD-40 isn't really a rust preventative. WD stands for water displacement. It can also for nasty goop on firearms and IMO, should be kept away from them. There are a lot of better water displacers that we can use, such as Ballistol or CorrosionX.

 

[renovato]

Interesting. I saw that 'tall oil' which I have wondered about is in MOS, and it's in 'GO-JO', my favorite multi purpose 'stuff'.

Tall oil is a by product of the paper industry. I guess it distills out of the wood when they're processing it. It's a mix of resins and acids if memory serves. I think it's kinda like pine oil which makes for a pretty good cleaner too.

 

[Rebel]

I've been using it Exclusively on ALL my guns for over 30 years and i have never had a gun rust. I have never noticed this build up people talk about. I use it on semi autos, bolt actions, revolvers, pistols, and black powder guns. No problems and no Complaints.

 

[Lone Carabiner]

Evidently it is an effective penetrate oil. Is this in 'Ballistol' also?
It is in GO-JO.

 

[Wehrmacht]

I've used Ballistol for a number of years both as a patch lube and general overall lube-rust prohibitor. It is great stuff, and it's been around for about a hundred years now!

Any time a German gets involved with conceiving and making something that is mechanical or related to mechanical, it will always be superior.Count on it! And Hey, Undertaker....recently read that Thyssen-Krupp had bought a shipyard and were gearing up to make U-Boats :shocked2:. Can we please be on the same side next time :haha:.

 

[Greenmtnboy]

I love ballistol!!! :bow:
I use for so many shooting applications including wood and leather.
Man only after one day that butter stuff started rusting :hmm:
Sure am glad I stoped using it years ago and not subject my custom barrels to butter and rust.
Thank you very much for the post sure does clear things up
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[Slamfire]

I've used Ballistol for a number of years both as a patch lube and general overall lube-rust prohibitor. It is great stuff, and it's been around for about a hundred years now!

Any time a German gets involved with conceiving and making something that is mechanical or related to mechanical, it will always be superior.Count on it! And Hey, Undertaker....recently read that Thyssen-Krupp had bought a shipyard and were gearing up to make U-Boats :shocked2:. Can we please be on the same side next time :haha:.

This one German was pretty good at marketin' also, he's sellin' you food grade mineral oil. :rotf:

 

[Yagee]

Well, some people don't think much of it but it is all i have ever used on mine and i have never had a bit of rust.

I've been using it Exclusively on ALL my guns for over 30 years and i have never had a gun rust. I have never noticed this build up people talk about. I use it on semi autos, bolt actions, revolvers, pistols, and black powder guns. No problems and no Complaints.

I could have been the author of the 2 post made by Rebel. I am in total agreement with his post.
NO RUST and NO GUMMING up of moving parts.
WD40 gets my vote. :thumbsup:

My 2 cents
Yagee

 

[renovato]

This one German was pretty good at marketin' also, he's sellin' you food grade mineral oil. :rotf:

I dunno what all is in it. I've heard it's mostly mineral oil too. I've never seen mineral oil mix with water like Ballistol does, so they're modifying the chemistry somewhat there.

I know they say that the anise oil is responsible for the smell, but I've smelled anise oil (got a friend who does aromatherapy and has all sorts of oils) and it doesn't smell like that. To me, Ballistol smells a lot like toluene (okay, maybe with a hint of anise).

Since the inventor owned a coal mine and it's made from coal mostly, I'd guess that there's some other distillates in there also.