The most complicated patch lube ever :

[flashpoint]

And in spite of all the ingredients in spit, it's the water and maybe a little of the mucus.

Oh, so that's why I can shoot better when I have a cold.

 

[Colonial Boy]

Actually an informative thread. Think of all the times one has swapped “spits” with a member of the opposite sex. Ewe. Disgusting.

Ewe is not as disgusting as ram.

 

[John May]

Still not gonna use it.

Let's be honest, it's got to be a personal choice, if you could buy it in a bottle from TOW no way would you use it!!

 

[toot]

We all learned at a quite young age that mother's saliva was the strongest cleaning agent known and it worked best when applied with a handkerchief.

thank's for the trip down memory lane. I do remember my mother spitting / licking a handkerchief to make my BOBO, all better!.

 

[toot]

Ewe is not as disgusting as ram.

why is it disgusting?? do you live in a bubble? remember that is how it starts-- with a kiss!!!

 

[toot]

Oh, so that's why I can shoot better when I have a cold.

and I thought it was called- MOOSE SNOT!???

 

[Bobby44]

I was at the range today and saw a guy using spit on his patches , that got me wondering what is in saliva which makes it better than water as a lube .Turns out it is the most complicated lube ever
This is what I found on Wikipedia

Produced in salivary glands, human saliva comprises 99.5% water, but also contains many important substances, including electrolytes, mucus, antibacterial compounds and various enzymes.[1]

• Water: 99.5%
• Electrolytes:
  • 2–21 mmol/L sodium (lower than blood plasma)
  • 10–36 mmol/L potassium (higher than plasma)
  • 1.2–2.8 mmol/L calcium (similar to plasma)
  • 0.08–0.5 mmol/L magnesium
  • 5–40 mmol/L chloride (lower than plasma)
  • 25 mmol/L bicarbonate (higher than plasma)
  • 1.4–39 mmol/L phosphate
  • Iodine (mmol/L concentration is usually higher than plasma, but dependent variable according to dietary iodine intake)
• Mucus (mucus in saliva mainly consists of mucopolysaccharides and glycoproteins)
• Antibacterial compounds (thiocyanate, hydrogen peroxide, and secretory immunoglobulin A)
• Epidermal growth factor (EGF)
• Various enzymes; most notably:
  • α-amylase (EC3.2.1.1), or ptyalin, secreted by the acinar cells of the parotid and submandibular glands, starts the digestion of starch before the food is even swallowed; it has a pH optimum of 7.4
  • Lingual lipase, which is secreted by the acinar cells of the sublingual gland; has a pH optimum around 4.0 so it is not activated until entering the acidic environment of the stomach
  • Kallikrein, an enzyme that proteolytically cleaves high-molecular-weight kininogen to produce bradykinin, which is a vasodilator; it is secreted by the acinar cells of all three major salivary glands
  • Antimicrobialenzymes that kill bacteria:
    • Lysozyme
    • Salivary lactoperoxidase
    • Lactoferrin[6]
    • Immunoglobulin A[6]
  • Proline-rich proteins (function in enamel formation, Ca2+-binding, microbe killing and lubrication)[6]
  • Minor enzymes including: salivary acid phosphatases A+B, N-acetylmuramoyl-L-alanine amidase, NAD(P)H dehydrogenase (quinone), superoxide dismutase, glutathione transferase, class 3 aldehyde dehydrogenase, glucose-6-phosphate isomerase, and tissue kallikrein (function unknown)[6]
• Cells: possibly as many as 8 million human and 500 million bacterial cells per mL. The presence of bacterial products (small organic acids, amines, and thiols) causes saliva to sometimes exhibit a foul odor.
• Opiorphin, a pain-killing substance found in human saliva
• Haptocorrin, a protein which binds to vitamin B12 to protect it against degradation in the stomach, before it binds to intrinsic factor.

How about that each shot kills millions of bacteria

So that is why spit balls work. Dang, I learn more stuff here than I did in any school.

 

[Billy Boy]

I was at the range today and saw a guy using spit on his patches , that got me wondering what is in saliva which makes it better than water as a lube .Turns out it is the most complicated lube ever
This is what I found on Wikipedia

Produced in salivary glands, human saliva comprises 99.5% water, but also contains many important substances, including electrolytes, mucus, antibacterial compounds and various enzymes.[1]

• Water: 99.5%
• Electrolytes:
  • 2–21 mmol/L sodium (lower than blood plasma)
  • 10–36 mmol/L potassium (higher than plasma)
  • 1.2–2.8 mmol/L calcium (similar to plasma)
  • 0.08–0.5 mmol/L magnesium
  • 5–40 mmol/L chloride (lower than plasma)
  • 25 mmol/L bicarbonate (higher than plasma)
  • 1.4–39 mmol/L phosphate
  • Iodine (mmol/L concentration is usually higher than plasma, but dependent variable according to dietary iodine intake)
• Mucus (mucus in saliva mainly consists of mucopolysaccharides and glycoproteins)
• Antibacterial compounds (thiocyanate, hydrogen peroxide, and secretory immunoglobulin A)
• Epidermal growth factor (EGF)
• Various enzymes; most notably:
  • α-amylase (EC3.2.1.1), or ptyalin, secreted by the acinar cells of the parotid and submandibular glands, starts the digestion of starch before the food is even swallowed; it has a pH optimum of 7.4
  • Lingual lipase, which is secreted by the acinar cells of the sublingual gland; has a pH optimum around 4.0 so it is not activated until entering the acidic environment of the stomach
  • Kallikrein, an enzyme that proteolytically cleaves high-molecular-weight kininogen to produce bradykinin, which is a vasodilator; it is secreted by the acinar cells of all three major salivary glands
  • Antimicrobialenzymes that kill bacteria:
    • Lysozyme
    • Salivary lactoperoxidase
    • Lactoferrin[6]
    • Immunoglobulin A[6]
  • Proline-rich proteins (function in enamel formation, Ca2+-binding, microbe killing and lubrication)[6]
  • Minor enzymes including: salivary acid phosphatases A+B, N-acetylmuramoyl-L-alanine amidase, NAD(P)H dehydrogenase (quinone), superoxide dismutase, glutathione transferase, class 3 aldehyde dehydrogenase, glucose-6-phosphate isomerase, and tissue kallikrein (function unknown)[6]
• Cells: possibly as many as 8 million human and 500 million bacterial cells per mL. The presence of bacterial products (small organic acids, amines, and thiols) causes saliva to sometimes exhibit a foul odor.
• Opiorphin, a pain-killing substance found in human saliva
• Haptocorrin, a protein which binds to vitamin B12 to protect it against degradation in the stomach, before it binds to intrinsic factor.

How about that each shot kills millions of bacteria

I did the same analysis before my medication review…

 

[Cattywompuss]

As a tobacco grower(we Taylors been at it since about 1680 in Eastern North Carolina), I'm gonna be the arse who points out that modern oral tobacco has a lot of sugar and salt in it. Dip(unless you take it up the nose it ain't snuff) is full of salt which ain't great for steel or iron. Chaw, chew, twist, etc is full of sugar and salt. Sugar ain't bad for metal, but not beneficial either. Tobacco is what it is because it is naturally able to kill most of the things that might want to harm it via poison(only those bastard horn worms are immune). Take that for what it's worth.

To end, please, for the sake of us tobacco growers getting an even worse name, clean your barrels after using spit to lube. I say that as a dedicated Skoal Mint dipper(cigarette smoker from age 14-24) with half a million tobacco seeds in store, 200 cigars in the humidor, and three pounds of self-grown pipe tobacco in sight of this computer. Nicotiana Responsibly

 

[Colonial Boy]

why is it disgusting?? do you live in a bubble? remember that is how it starts-- with a kiss!!!

Dunno about your neck of the woods but around here most of us don’t kiss the rams.

 

[toot]

it sounds like your problem?? LOL!

 

[Whughett]

Tried chewing tobacco once. Could not get over the impulse to swallow. Wound up barfing up the entire days worth of breakfast and lunch.

 

[Yewbender]

Copenhagen Wintergreen Spit Patch Lube…lubes and cleans at the same time and smells good. Shoot all day without swabbing. The only caution is on hot summer days…drink plenty of water or you will get COTTON MOUTH!!!

 

[Whughett]

As a tobacco grower(we Taylors been at it since about 1680 in Eastern North Carolina), I'm gonna be the arse who points out that modern oral tobacco has a lot of sugar and salt in it. Dip(unless you take it up the nose it ain't snuff) is full of salt which ain't great for steel or iron. Chaw, chew, twist, etc is full of sugar and salt. Sugar ain't bad for metal, but not beneficial either. Tobacco is what it is because it is naturally able to kill most of the things that might want to harm it via poison(only those bastard horn worms are immune). Take that for what it's worth.

To end, please, for the sake of us tobacco growers getting an even worse name, clean your barrels after using spit to lube. I say that as a dedicated Skoal Mint dipper(cigarette smoker from age 14-24) with half a million tobacco seeds in store, 200 cigars in the humidor, and three pounds of self-grown pipe tobacco in sight of this computer. Nicotiana Responsibly

Small farm in New Richmond Ohio. The 50’s. As kids we plucked the seedlings from the beds, transplanted them to the field, later wormed and suckered the plants. Hoed the rows. The field agent would come and survey the field and more often than not cut down a few rows. We were limited to a few acres and seemed to always over plant. Later the plants were cut, speared on tobacco sticks and hung in the barn loft to dry. Stripped wrapped and taken to the auctions. Our only cash crop.
I was up to smoking 3 packs a day, and by 1984 I had switched to a pipe. By 1989 I was able to give up tobacco altogether.

 

[DuncNZ]

I found my fathers pipe and started smoking when I was 20 , I stopped 3 days later , My girlfriend said I tasted like an ash tray so I quit

 

[Whughett]

I found my fathers pipe and started smoking when I was 20 , I stopped 3 days later , My girlfriend said I tasted like an ash tray so I quit

Always wondered about that reference. They lick many ash trays.

 

[toot]

So that is why spit balls work. Dang, I learn more stuff here than I did in any school.

this is the school of hard knocks!!! stay tuned!!