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Trench

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I just finished my second season of MZ hunting using my .50 flintlock. It occurred to me that I was really hunting. What I mean is, I was on the ground, moving slowly, trying to keep down wind, and looking for deer and trying to get close enough to take a shot when I DO find them.
This year I left the woods empty handed but totally satisfied. I had two opportunities to take deer. Messed up the first one due to a damp main charge (wrote about this), and got within 30 yds of another one two days later only for him to sniff me out before I could see him clearly enough for a clean shot. (we were in thick stuff).
I don't think I can ever tree stand hunt again. I realize I will probably get less deer, but it'll be so much more satisfying when I do get one! :grin:
 
Trench said:
I don't think I can ever tree stand hunt again. I realize I will probably get less deer, but it'll be so much more satisfying when I do get one!
I think that's a good place to arrive at...I put it in similar terms...I'm more interested in the "how" than in the "how many"...rather take one Turkey with a smoothbore Flintlock than 50 with my Remington 1187
 
I do not tree stand hunt, but prefer to hunt like you, on the ground. I do a lot of stopping and sitting on a stump to look around, and that is when I see most of my deer. I have hung up a couple of sheets of cammo netting for my wife and I to sit behind ocasionally, and have quite enjoyed what we have witnessed. Deer can be very amusing at times, and often grouse come to visit too.
 
I'd say you had a very successful season. It's about the hunt, not the kill.

snagg :hatsoff:
 
My son and I spent many hours already this year in the woods trying to chase down turkey and deer. He finally got a nice 8 point on the last day of the regular season and I haven't gotten close enough for a safe shot yet. BUT...I have thoroughly enjoyed every freesing, wet and windy moment of it. Nothing beats ebing in the woods with your son and NOT being at work!
 
Some of my most memorable Deer Kills took place while afoot.Something about sneaking upon a mature Buck within 30 yards gives me a rush.
 
Yes it is! Finest kind.

That's what I think of when someone says "fair chase" as opposed to an ambush.

I also carry a little plywood tree-seat I can hook to a tree at ground level so I can take rests and sit at promising looking spots. Hard to take a nap standing up. :rotf:
 
Took a nice 8 point last season while still hunting. I caught a glimpse of deer about 40 yards up ahead of me so I just stood still and watched as they crossed by an opening. Looked like all does until the 4th one came into view and I saw the rack so I set my sights real quick and made some smoke.

I hunt out of stands also, don't like to limit myself but hunting on the ground sure if fun, especially still hunting which is my favorite method but conditions need to be right, especially if it's thick.
 
Trench , Im glad your having fun. I an too this year. Isnt that what its about? Like you I like to move slow through the woods going from spot to spot. I have 5 gallon pails out in certain areas I use them to sit on and I take my time getting to them. I actually walked within 15 yards of a bedded deer the other day. No shot though the deer was laying facing away and there was too much brush to risk it. Using open sights for the first time in over 15 years Ive passed up some shots that seemed iffy to me but thats OK. Im still having fun. We have 4 days left in our season but we are supposed to get a huge snow storm Sunday. I hope to get out at least twice more.
 
The primitive season in PA starts the day after Christmas and runs for almost 3 weeks. I can't wait to get out in the snow to do some flinting. I am happy to see that others truly enjoy hunting this way.

Our centerfire season is a madhouse of activity with huge groups of people driving deer and shooting at anything that moves because of a concurrent buck/doe season. It's not even safe to be out there with some of these idiots slinging lead.

Flintlocking relieves me of all the headaches and provides a peaceful slice of woods and season to truly hunt. I hope it never changes.
 
I agreee 100%. The primative season in PA gives the deer time to get back to normal patterns and removes the idiot factor from the woods. Anybody you meet in the woods has to really know how to hunt or they won't have a chance at a deer. Some farmers around here will give you permission to hunt flintlock when they won't during the regular "its brown it's down" season becasue they know it takes some carful hunting to get within flint range of a deer.
 
Flintlock stalk hunting is my favorite way to hunt. I wouldn't sell off the tree stands just yet though.

Consider the area your hunting. If it is public land like a national forest, family or leased land where the area is large and you wont be hunting the same place day after day stalk hunting is the way to go IMHO.

On the other hand if your hunting area is smaller and you have more hunters using the same land such as a club you may want to use a combination of traditional and so called modern methods.

Stalk, look for sign, look for trails. Remember where you saw deer. While stalking look for good places whithin flintlock range but off the trail to put a stand of your choosing. It could be a ground blind, a ridge top watching a holler where you can lay on your belly, a nice tree to lean against or even a tree stand. Have several spots like this that you can get too in different wind conditions. Stalk in to a spot stay the day or stalk on down to the next spot.

Stalk hunting is a skill that takes super concentation and years to master. Slip through the woods quietly and very slowly. Step listen look. Go very slow and pay attention. Every step you take is a different view. Look. Move every limb including your head very slowly. Deer pick up movement and have incredible hearing and smell.

But one thing we have in our advantage is deer have very short attention spans. Trees fall birds fly, all sorts of things make noise and happen in the woods.

If you break a limb or make some noise or move a little to quick, stop get back in the "zone" and freeze for a little while. An alarmed deer may be close by. The deer will look listen and even sniff the air. If this deer sees movement or hears noise from the same spot while they're alarmed the flag comes up and they're gone. On the other hand if you're still and quiet they may go back to their business allowing you to get closer for a shot.

The trick is to out smart them. Have a longer attention span than they do. Remember that deer may just be out of your line of sight. Stay in the zone even after you think you've ruined your hunt. If you crash through some thick brush and sound like a Sherman Tank, stop, look, listen.

I waked up on a nice atlered buck affter swimming through about 100 yards of the thickest briars and brambles I've ever seen. I broke through them and thought all the game within 10 miles heard me.

I had my rifle down and was be-boping through the woods like I was walking down the sidewalk. There he was 25 yards away broad side. He bolted and I was not ready. If I had been in the zone when I got out of those briars he would have been my first flintlock deer.

BTW Hunting from up a tree was a known practice on the early frontier. Rebecca Boone was known to take deer from a tree while Daniel was away.
 
We got some snow last night; around 3" and it's not real cold either. It's Sunday with a week to go to opener. Going out for a nice long walk to check out my hunting area; it's almost as fun as really hunting.
 
Trench
Its good to hear about your hunt. And I also have that feeling. This was the third season with a muzzleloader and still no deer. I had my changes the first year and this year. Both years I thought if I would have had the centerfire rifle I would have harvest a deer. Now each year I could have harvest a doe but I have made up my mind a buck's first. I have alway done a lot of stalking even before I started hunting with BP. I enjoy the time in the woods and memorys that will last for ever. This year will be one I will never forget. I missed a very hugh mature buck this year. But there's next year and just maybe I'll be posting a picture of him with me next year. :wink: He's still out there.
 
Trench said:
This IS hunting!
:bow:
yup in the purest form of the word hunting....if we can go out and just pick our deer we want to shoot out if a dozen or so ya see in front of you like on tv "shooting" shows, it would be just "shooting" or "shopping" and not hunting :v ................bob

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