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I have a large siler on my new Isaac Haines. It’s a good lock. Two things I don’t like are the skinny pan. It’s hard to wipe out. I know I can grind it out to help that. Just haven’t yet. The other thing is the hammer isn’t in line with the frizzen. I have to hang the flint to the right to hit all the frizzen and not the barrel.

I have a kibler smr. I wish I would have bought the lock he had for my Haines.
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I have a large siler on my new Isaac Haines. It’s a good lock. Two things I don’t like are the skinny pan. It’s hard to wipe out. I know I can grind it out to help that. Just haven’t yet. The other thing is the hammer isn’t in line with the frizzen. I have to hang the flint to the right to hit all the frizzen and not the barrel.

I have a kibler smr. I wish I would have bought the lock he had for my Haines. View attachment 386046

Interesting as that’s how my jaws and frizzen line up too.
 
Locks you say.
There are 3 main players. Chambers, Rice (L&R) and Kibler.

I have a Chambers Late Ketland. Tuned by Mr Rice above, and is the old styled forged, not CNC.
In 2005 the lock I have was the fastest production lock made. Thats why I bought a Chambers.

When you mess up like I did, I had to mail mine back to Jim so he repaired it, and sent it back.
Chambers now has CNC locks :-( Cheaper does not make better.
If you have a L&R lock, you can get parts at just about anywhere in the muzzle loading world.

I dont know squat about Kibler locks, so far no one in my circle of holy black puffers does not own one.
So I can not say a thing about them.
 
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I like them I trust them and Chambers family has always stood behind their products
the only lock I have that is not a siler/chambers cost me more to have fixed than it cost
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Beats bashing your barrel with a sharp flint!
Rich, I like the lock but why do you think they don’t have the hammer and the frizzen in line with each other? I’m not impressed with having to hang the flint off the right side. And you can see I’m not hitting the right side of the frizzen at all. I was told they’re all like that.
 
I build two or three guns a year, and I always use Chambers locks, unless it's a lefty. I have two personal rifles; a .50 Southern Mountain gun, and a .58 early styled plain gun. My southern gun has a Chambers Late Ketland, and my early gun has their Early Ketland. Both are very fast locks!
 

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Rich, I like the lock but why do you think they don’t have the hammer and the frizzen in line with each other? I’m not impressed with having to hang the flint off the right side. And you can see I’m not hitting the right side of the frizzen at all. I was told they’re all like that.
I view most production locks as far better than most originals but no t perfect. Not a big deal for me to move a flint outward. Or, if there’s clearance, to seat the cock closer to the lock plate by judicious stoning or work with a diamond needle file. I’ve handled a fair number of original locks in decent condition and have a historical period perspective, not a modern view. How does it match up to period rifle locks? Extremely well.
 


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