Thoughts on Panther and 4 Dog Stoves??

[bowbender68]

Hi All,
I am planning to get a small stove for a 12x12 pyramid tent, and have been looking at the small stove that Panther sells, and the 2 Dog stove. I am hoping I can get some input from anyone who owns either before I spend the money. They are both roughly the same size, and gauge steel, but somehow the Panther weighs about 20 pounds more.?? Also, and I don't know if this makes any difference, but the 2 Dog stove has a 5" stove pipe vs. 4" on the Panther. Thanks for any input!

 

[MSW]

for what it's worth, and my opinion (plus a ticket) will just about get you on the bus, but...

been a long time since i used a stove in a tent. heating a tent (if such is possible) is problematic, since there's very little discernable "r- value" in canvas- it really just acts as a windbreak, but the heat will pass through fairly quick unless it's lined in some way. on the other hand, stoves are good to cook on, and the heat by transmitting infrared radiation, so the things in the tent will warm up, and the interior will feel warmer. sort of. depending on how cold it is outside. if you really want to feel warmer. (take home point- heating an empty tent is about as useful as cooling an empty refridgerator). you can sometimes dry out damp clothing near a tentstove, too, which can be a lifesaver (or at least, a major morale booster).

another point- watch out for odd sized stovepipes. (been zinged on this one myself) unless you get enough pipe to set up the whole deal, you could find youself in east nowhere (a likely thing, since you're using a stove in a tent) and the clerk at the local hardware store sadly telling you that they haven't seen that part in years but they'd be glad to special order it from the factory in western mongolia...

good luck- if you've got the money, it's probably a gadget worth having. burn dry hardwood.

msw

 

Been there, done that. Want to buy a new one still in the box?

None of these stoves is large enough to accept a stick of wood that will burn for more than a few minutes. You wind up feeding them half the night, then going to sleep and waking up frozen.

In a 12'x12' you will be hard pressed to have safty clearance for a wood stove anywhere in the tent. After you make room for the stove you will have precious little room for anything else.

Most of the pyrimids I have seen that tried to use the stoves wound up badly stained by creasote drips on the adjoining wall.

If you absolutely must have heat the double 1 pound canister propane camp heater is the way to go. It will warm a 12x12 with no problem and burn for 10 hours.

 

[Claude Mathis]

I have a 10x12 wall tent and a 3-Dog Stove. It takes logs large enough to burn for hours, if you close the air intake and dampers to the minimum (not all the way, as you need some air flow). It keeps that tent very warm.

 

[Greenmtnboy]

I have a 10x12 wall tent and a 3-Dog Stove. It takes logs large enough to burn for hours, if you close the air intake and dampers to the minimum (not all the way, as you need some air flow). It keeps that tent very warm.

Are the three dog stoves primitive?
I have a sheep herders stove that works great but isen't rondy legal. I am getting a RK wall tent( my teepee had a hole in the roof :rotf: and my famley is getting bigger) I would like a good primitive stove for it
:hatsoff:

 

[Claude Mathis]

Are the three dog stoves primitive?

In the strictest sense, no. They are welded.

It all depends on the event or your own criteria whether they would work for you.

 

If you still want one PM me.

 

[jbg]

How cold does it get in Southern
California? :blah: :rotf:

 

[Slamfire]

How cold does it get in Southern
California? :blah: :rotf:

Considerin' that the north wall of the Los Angeles Basin is composed of mountains in excess of 10,000 feet high, you can find snow, on the north slopes, in July. Is that cold enough? :shocked2:

 

[Claude Mathis]

How cold does it get in Southern
California? :blah: :rotf:

Considerin' that the north wall of the Los Angeles Basin is composed of mountains in excess of 10,000 feet high, you can find snow, on the north slopes, in July. Is that cold enough? :shocked2:

We have several ~6,000 ft. peaks within an hour of our home and within a few hours of the house there are some 10-11,000 footers.

We have a family cabin 5 hours North of us (Green Valley Lake) that sits at 7,000 ft.

California also has the second highest peak in North America (Mt Whitney-14,495 ft.). Too bad I couldn't bring my 3-Dog Stove when I climbed it. It gets pretty cold up there. :winking:

 

[Big Heart]

To answer your question on comparison between Panther and 2-Dog Stoves - quality of workmanship is much better on the 2 - Dog Stove. One of my friends just bought a Panther and we just bought a 3 - Dog Stove so I have seen rcent ones from both manufacturers hand in hand. The hole coming out of the top on the Panther was not even close to being round. It also showed cruder welding. I am a big fan of Panther Lodges - own 2 of them and order lots of stuff from them - the owners are great people - but I am glad I bought the 3-Dog Stove. We just tried it out for 10 days at the EPR in a 12 x 12 tall boy pyramid and it made it cozy. Yes, it did cut down on space but for 2 of us - we still could store our stuff (including a queen size bed and did just fine. I bought the 3-Dog instead of the 2-Dog because it takes a longer piece of wood - handled everything we got frommthe woodpile at the rendezvous. Also it holds fire longer - we dampered it way down and it lasted all night. Also, we might get a bigger lodge some day and the 3-Dog will still work. It was money well spent. Also another tip - the 3-Dog is baffled inside the stove so you dont need a spark arrestor. Run the pipe straight up - (ours came with a section with damper and a colapsible 4 section of 5 inch pipe and we put in the fireproof stove pipe tent liner). No streaks on the lodge. If you run it out the side and elbow it or use a spark arrestor you will get creosote drips on the canvas. Hope my post helps you!

 

[Maestro]

Personal testimonial for the 2-Dog stove:

I used mine for the first time last week at the EPR and it performed beautifully! I filled it with wood before retiring, dampened it way down; at around 3-4 am (coinciding with the 52-year old bladder call) I put 3-4 more pieces of wood in and it lasted till 8 am when we got up. Then, I got it going hotter and made coffee on it. Worked like a charm! We love it!

 

[Bill L]

Last winter I purchased a little stove called the Sheepherder's Stove manufactured by KNI-CO Manufacturing.It may be all you need for your tent.It is low to the ground and I believe it is 10"wX8"hX24"l and is very light to pack.It is not a stove that is going to hold a fire for a real long time but it will keep you warm.

 

[Mike Harper]

i received a flyer for harbour frieght tools the other day and they had a cast iron stove that took 5" stove pipe for $119. Not sure the prices for the others, but could be another option.