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A Swiss flintlock rifle,

Melchior Keller, Basel around 1690. An eight groove, rifled barrel in 14 mm calibre with a dovetailed brass front sight and a cut iron rear sight. The mark "MK" (St
 
If you are speaking of the Shumway Jaeger book, I suggest you see it before you buy it. For me it was totally useless & I sold it imediately day after getting it. It is a copy of copy of copies of extremely poor photos of some unusual Jaeger rifles and I found only one rifle in the whole book that interested me at all. It was hard to believe they would publish such poor quality book of rifles. I suggest you see one before buying it.

I had heard that the quality was poor, but presumed that because a new edition had come out that the quality of printing might have improved. $32 plus postage to Australia is a lot of money for me. I tryed looking for it second hand but second hand its the same price or MORE than new.

OK, perhaps I am better off getting the Torsten Lenk book and searching the Hermann Historica website for decent images. Someone also mentioned there is a catalogue from the Tojhusmuseet (sp?) in Copenhagen that has a lot of Danish style jaegers in it...
 
The Holy grail!
the museum is in Suhl? I will have to divert there next year if I finally make it to europe...
 
Those are some really beutiful pieces. Now I have three reasons to visit Germany 1 beer 2. the autobahn 3. jaeger rifles.
 
Thanks for the added info, it does resemble some of the high art guns in Lenks book from France, Belgium other European countries in the late 17th century.
 
Yes, I should get a copy of Lenk.
the cheapest i have found so far (unfortunately) is $50 US plus postage. Will have to see if my collecting club library has a copy I can borrow.

I really like that gun, the decoration is sparse, but where it is decorated its extremely rich.
 
Mike, you beat me to it. The precarves SUCK. All of them, but especially anything called a "Jaeger". It is on only extremely rare occasion that I see a German-type rifle that is built correctly...or even anywhere near close to correctly. You MUST handle some old ones. They're not really hard to come by. Any antique gun show will turn up a few.

The Davis lock can be made to look good, but it takes a LOT of work...too much work. It is FAR too "banana" shaped. The Chamber's lock generally doesn't require any work to function well or look good. Rounding off either of these doesn't work real well, since they are just not set up to do so. The cocks particularly are not nearly thick enough to make into round. Unless you get one from The Rifle Shoppe, NOBODY makes a round faced German lock. One can be built using a hand made plate, the largest pan and frizzen you could find and the round cock off of something like the L&R "queen anne" or the Chambers round faced lock....both of which will require a little tweaking, but are substantially similar to German cocks.

Books...there are NO American books worth much. Go to Hermann Historica and get about the last 10 years worth of their auction catalogs. You can also bid on lots of books when the next auction comes up. One of the best is "Kataloge des Bayerischen Nationalmuseums Muenchen: Handfeuerwaffen". The auction catalogs are actually as good as most of the books. You can also bid on a gun...they're MUCH, MUCH cheaper than American guns, and usually cheaper than if you bought the same German gun in America.

The Lenk book has absolutely NO German rifles in it. I think there are one or two 17th century German pistols, but that's it. Unless your thing is French guns, you will find this book of little interest (though it is good to be able to see some of the decorative designs).

P.S. I have been informed by Mr. Chambers that there is a good quality book in the works on German rifles. Just WHEN it will be available, I don't know.
 
American books worth much. Go to Hermann Historica and get about the last 10 years worth of their auction catalogs. You can also bid on lots of books when the next auction comes up. One of the best is "Kataloge des Bayerischen Nationalmuseums Muenchen: Handfeuerwaffen". The auction catalogs are actually as good as most of the books. You can also bid on a gun...they're MUCH, MUCH cheaper than American guns, and usually cheaper than if you bought the same German gun in America.
thanks for all the good advice!
i will dig around a bit more and it definitely sounds like i will have to make a major detour through germany next year...
Museum catalogs can be pretty good eg the firearms catalog from the Landzeughaus in Graz i have. Others, like the Real Armeria in Madrid are more tourist guides with tiny bad quality pictures :(
 
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