Trade gun photos please....

[longcruise]

Good post Zonie.

Zonie passed some years ago. As you noted he was an admired contributor.

Doing pretty well yerself.

 

[Hiverano]

Zonie passed some years ago. As you noted he was an admired contributor.

Doing pretty well yerself.

Have had a ruff time for the last 5 years, doctors finally got me back on track. Nice to see some old names appear here, thank you for asking.

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[Hiverano]

You folks talking about NW Trade Guns, here's the best one I have ever seen and the selling price says it all ...

WOW​

 

[nkbj]

A while back I was gifted a kit built Pedersoli trade gun. They're beautiful and this one was made uniquely so. Haven't figured out yet my best ways of shooting it. Do they operate better bare ball or patched? Or is it just a matter of what you're up to that day?

 

[Clark Badgett]

A while back I was gifted a kit built Pedersoli trade gun. They're beautiful and this one was made uniquely so. Haven't figured out yet my best ways of shooting it. Do they operate better bare ball or patched? Or is it just a matter of what you're up to that day?

Theoretically using enough patching to remove the windage between ball and bore should be most accurate. There are many that do both patched and bare ball, and both ways have their devotees. Go experiment with yours and find out.

 

[Polecat_Tom]

Do they operate better bare ball or patched? Or is it just a matter of what you're up to that day?

I don't see much if any difference between bare ball or patched ball.
I shoot either 60 grains ff a nitro card,.715 ball and a overshot card. Or 60 grains ff .690 ball with .015 patch.
Either way seems consistent enough for me out to 50 yards which is the max distance at the range that I use.

 

[Relic shooter]

You folks talking about NW Trade Guns, here's the best one I have ever seen and the selling price says it all ...

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WOW​

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Nice example of a Barnett Trade Gun !

Saw a few months ago on UTUBE where divers in Oregon did a video of a sunken flat boat on I think the Columbia River that was packed with a wagon of supplies including Trade Guns that appeared to be fairly well preserved but didn't know what they had.
Sent them a message as to what the Gun was & advised that they keep them in water until they got better advise on preserving the guns & other artifacts.

 

[potter4077]

Museum of the fur trade...

I know this was posted 8 years ago, but if you’re still around, could you tell me where this museum is located?

 

[Polecat_Tom]

I know this was posted 8 years ago, but if you’re still around, could you tell me where this museum is located?

Google Museum of the Fur Trade
Located only three miles east of Chadron, Nebraska, the Museum of the Fur Trade stands on the site of James Bordeaux's trading post,

 

[Wes]

I may have posted this a while back, if I did sorry ~ old age sucks ...

GRRW Collectors Association

NW TRADE GUN EXAMPLE

This is a copy of an original 1850's NW trade gun right down to the size of the original's bore - a .50 caliber smoothbore. Hanson thought it was built to reach out (longer range) with the buffalo becoming wary of humans.

Mr. Koziol has done similar testing if you remember on another GRRW Collectors Association gun - a J&S Hawken full stock flinter built by Carl Walker last year. Jonathan was amazed how nice that rifle turned out.

Jonathan loves to shoot and improve on the guns he has tested, that's the reason I sent this gun to him. Plus, he'll use his different great products and services to improve on what the original copy started out as.

This was a surprise to have Doc comment on someone's work like he has with Jonathan. What Doc White and myself like is how he is making this information available to you guys, should be an interesting review with the addition of his videos ...

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Green River Rifle Works Collectors Association North West Trade Gun ~ Doc. White builder of this gun. .50 caliber smoothbore, flint lock ignition, ser. no. [DGW NW#01].

This is the first NW Gun built by either firm - GRRW or GRRW.CA.​

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trade gun picture


1st Shot


Fine Tuning


Making Adjustments
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Testing GRRW No.1 H.E. Leman North West Trade Gun GRRW.CA DGW - @NW01 .50cal. Did a little shooting today and had a blast! Tomorrow, I will be setting up my shooting bags and try it off something stable. Ignition was fast, trigger pull was maybe in the 3 to 4lb range. A very comfortable gun. It was weird getting used to that flat butt plate as I shoot a Hawken, but it was a nice feeling on the shoulder. I am hoping to find an accurate load out to at least 75 yards with this smoothbore and use it for a mule deer hunt in September. An extremely well put together NW gun! Doc did one heck of a job one this one!

That wouldn't work very well when hunting or just carrying the gun in the woods. Your better off figuring out where to aim using the tang screw screwdriver slot for reference.

screw picture​

This slot can be tightened or loosened a touch to move your point of aim, takes a little practice.

Jonathan wrote: That's exactly what I've been doing! That screw helps keep things center and then i go with the blurry line that shows up when I look down the barrel. Just like a shotgun pretty much. So far it’s been working,, but longer ranges is where consistency will show up.

We know now how this smoothbore will shoot ... Jonathan shot several targets with enlarged three shot groups at 25 yards and 50 yards.

target

Target - One ragged hole - three shot groups, got the same results every time, 25 yards and at 50 yards. New owner is experiencing the same results.​

The new owner wrote me that this was the best shooting smoothbore he has ever shot (has lots of experience shooting these guns).

The new owner Kevin M... experienced the same results as Jonathan with three shots in one ragged hole. This smoothbore will be making the trip to the Nationals for setting a few of the old records with new scores.

What's next - this is how we will approach this gun:
1.) see if a steel ramrod is in order.
2.) Birchwood Casey finish.

The video's really looks good Jonathan.

Buck

Super, thanks! Great looking rifle and it shoots great!

 

[potter4077]

Google Museum of the Fur Trade
Located only three miles east of Chadron, Nebraska, the Museum of the Fur Trade stands on the site of James Bordeaux's trading post,

Thank you!