I ordered a .54 cal bag mold and a folding ladle from Larry Callahan. Well today I decided to give them a try. I just used a propane torch to heat the lead in the ladle. Let me tell you that bag mold Larry makes is VERY good and VERY well made. It looks amazing to me and casts one dang good ball. And that sprue cutter cuts the sprue dead flush with the ball. You couldn't cut the sprue any closer with a pair of flush cutters. If you are thinking about getting a bag mold, I for one HIGHLY recommend these. Now for the down side. Of course the handles will get hot quickly as they are thin steel with no wood insulating you from the heat. But these things are not meant to cast 100's of round ball. I cast 6 high quality balls in a matter of about 10 minutes wearing a pair of leather gloves. Sitting around a fire casting a few balls for a hunt is what I will use them for. Thank you to those of you who told me about Larry's outfit.