Tumpline?

[Elnathan]

My understanding is that the twine from online specialist hemp distributors is much better quality than that sold by Wal-mart and the hobby/craft stores. I do have a considerable quantity of that laying around.

Le Nez,
Those pictures really do help. Very simple, now that I see it. I've never done any twining or finger weaving, though, it might have been quite awhile until I figured it out for myself!

Only about 14 strands, huh? I figured I would need 25-30 for a 2 1/2-3" strap...

 

[davidmc62]

Looks good, Ill take it for a buck. Sure is a lot of work to sell for a dollar there Le Nez.... :wink:

 

[Black Hand]

My understanding is that the twine from online specialist hemp distributors is much better quality than that sold by Wal-mart and the hobby/craft stores. I do have a considerable quantity of that laying around.

I wonder if that what they wish you to believe (for the privilege of paying extra).

Regardless, the Hemp twine from Walmart works just fine.

 

[Elnathan]

My understanding is that the twine from online specialist hemp distributors is much better quality than that sold by Wal-mart and the hobby/craft stores. I do have a considerable quantity of that laying around.

I wonder if that what they wish you to believe (for the privilege of paying extra).

Regardless, the Hemp twine from Walmart works just fine.

I was going by this guy, who seems to know what he is talking about: http://amohkali.com/?p=22

The prices are about the same. The problem is shipping, which costs an arm and a leg, and the fact that no one ever seems to have everything I need in stock at the same time - I want to get some webbing for powderhorn straps if I'm already paying shipping, possibly some rope too...all that adds up pretty fast.

 

[Black Hand]

Yes - what Wynne says may be true (or was true at the time).

But I've had few issues with Hemp twine from Walmart. There are a few slubs and irregular thicknesses, but they haven't been a problem with the medium twine (more an issue with the thinnest variety) and I've not needed to splice pieces. Even the weakest material becomes stronger when woven/twined together.

I've also used the same twine to make rope with no problems.

 

[Einsiedler]

I know Wynne very well. He's a fine fellow. Shared many a campfire with him. Haven't seen him in about 11-12 years. Either way, whatever you decide to use, go for it! I've had no issues with the stuff from Walmart or hobby lobby.

Hemp is pretty tough stuff.

😉

 

[Einsiedler]

Sorry Black Hand,

That reply was for Elnathan!

 

[Black Hand]

No worries.

 

[Elnathan]

OK, another question. When twining the brow band, do you twist the warp and thread a single weft line through the twists? That is how Alice Tulloch does it in “Tumplines, carrying nets and belts” (in Primitive Technology: A Book of Earth Skills: The best from the pages of the Bulletin of Primitive Technology. 1999)

Yours looks like it was done the other way, by twisting two weft cords around single warp cords. That is how I was expecting to do it untill I read Tulloch...

Looking at this original, it seems that it was made using Tulloch's method, but it is really hard to tell.

 

[Einsiedler]

I always twisted two around one. As that was the way the Choctaw fellow taught me. On another note it is my understanding that some plateau tribes twisted THREE around one! I haven't figured that one out!!!

Twisting two is certainly easier and faster. And authentic!

 

[Einsiedler]

I don't know why I didn't mention this to you earlier concerning the twist of the weft, but say you wish to use two different color wefts to create a design in what ever you are twining. Like say a bag. What you have to do is put an extra twist around the warp thread to bring up the Correct color weft. Hard to explain. Easier demonstrated. So it's actually like a double twist.

Confused yet?

The only other way to really add in another color (which is still correct but a PITA) is to stop and tie off your one color weft. Tie in your corresponding color, they stop and tie it off when you are ready to begins the original color. Very Time consuming as you may only need to add one or two warp rows of the corresponding color.

Now I bet your really confused.