The discussion then would be about you got what you paid for.....Hi,
If the gun was made in India, would you be saying the same thing?
dave
The discussion then would be about you got what you paid for.....Hi,
If the gun was made in India, would you be saying the same thing?
dave
Yes, and how much do you charge for one of your beautiful rifles? Perfection costs, and I'm willing to put up with a certain amount of imperfection because I can't afford better. I'm not a collector, I'm a shooter (occasionally) and while I appreciate beauty, I'm not willing to pay for it.
Paying $1800 for a rifle and discovering a disaster in a packing box/crate like that would quite frankly enrage me.
Agree with Gene L, not a disaster, but rather a potential disappointment. Depends on TVM. Expect them to step up to the plate and resolve all concerns. TVM has somehow become a rather controversial builder. Many buyers love them, a few hate them. Quessing when this is over and the initial disappointment is a distant memory, Smokey will go to the mat for TVM. In spite of any of the cosmetic issues, seems TVMs are reliable and accurate (personally have handled and shot a few, but never owned one), and Smokey, love him or hate him, told us what he was doing before placing his order. No surprises here. Get your big boy or girl bowl of popcorn out and enjoy the show."Disaster?" Isn't that a bit judgmental of an entire rifle and maker based on the photo of a fraction of an inch of steel?
Yeah because foreign manufactures are still in the dark ages.....Actually a statement of, fact intended as neither a defense or condemnation. Many react without thinking ahead and put themselves in a less desirable position to resolve issues. Even foreign manufacturers are aware what negative feedback may cost them in future sales and smart ones will resolve issues early on. I fully agree that those who don't provide adequate and timely customer service deserve to go out of business and/or wind up in court.
I do recall a thread a while back about lyman quality going down of late. Then there is the comments about s&w taking tc quality down, even seen custom builders on this site criticize other custom builders work on here, and then there is the pc discussions where if not to the writers standard everyone is wrong. As i get older even a high end custom rilfe i might find something i dont like if i look hard enough. The way this thread is going is what i was trying to say earlier. Disappointing to say the least.I think there's a danger of being too hoity-toity here. Not to mention a bias that allowed one poster to evaluate a builder based on a half-inch photograph. Not all of us can afford to drop $5K into a rifle, and that's OK. If I could afford it, I wouldn't, because that's not why I like shooting MLs. Historically, we see all the silver-chased and carved stocks because they were used the least. Let us not get too exclusive on this board to where anyone feels superior to another because of the "quality" of his rifle.
I've got two, and they're great. Not "fine" rifles, but I didn't pay for a fine rifle. I don't know what Dave charges for his rifles, but I could probably buy three (or more) TVMs, and I'll wager these plain rifles, like most of the workaday rifles of the average American rifleman, will shoot just as fine.
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