Uberti .31 1849 Pocket Power

[nkbj]

After paper soaks for a day or two the binder gels, the paper ceases to be paper and it makes a really good test medium.

 

[Bad Karma]

Yeah, didn't we just have a thread on that?
Something about is it safe to be eating deer shot with a round ball???

Dunno… I don’t read everything on the site.

 

[Stantheman86]

Round balls out of revolvers have some kind of magical stopping power that goes beyond penetration tests or any conventional knowledge

They flatten out in tissue and tumble around vs conicals that just plow in with a relatively straight line until they hit bone

If Skeeter says the Confederate cavalry vets loved .36 round balls vs conicals out of their Navies because they put men down better, I believe them

 

[Eutycus]

Back around 30 years ago, I had a ball from one bounce back and hit me right in the knee. Left a dandy bruise and smarted for a couple weeks afterwards...Can't recommend it for a good time.

I did that with one of those little .45 caliber CVA cannons. No fun having a lead ball whizzing past your ear.The Lord must have been looking out for me that day.

 

[Stantheman86]

I did that with one of those little .45 caliber CVA cannons. No fun having a lead ball whizzing past your ear.The Lord must have been looking out for me that day.

I was shooting my Uberti London Navy with Mouse fart Pyrodex loads at a polymer swinger target in my parents backyard, I hit the swinger and it soaked up 99% of the balls velocity, and leisurely blooped it back at me ,as I watched a ball arc up like a slow pitch Softball and bounce off my chest. It came back exactly where it came from.

Also was shooting .32 Long Fiocchi target wadcutters out of a Swiss 1882 Ordnance revolver and they bounced off that polymer target , arced over my head and were bouncing off the wood barn 50 yards behind me

I decided it was time to stop shooting wimpy stuff at polymer targets before I caught a bullet to the face

Ricochets are no joke. I was just recently at my gun club and in the next pistol pit over some guy was Rapid firing at steel targets, and I could hear the bullets whanging over my head like 4 or 5 feet above me, over the berm separating us

I went over and told him he was spraying the whole range with ricochets and we don't need bullets going in the wrong direction here.....I'd like to make it to Arbys and go home. Not be in the ER with a 9mm slug in me

 

[Billy Boy]

Acquaintance shot his .31 pocket model in a friend's basement at a log turned sideways. Ball bounced back & hit him in the forehead. Don't know if it bounced off of wood or perhaps a bullet previously imbedded because the log had been shot into before. He wasn't mortally injured, but had a knot for awhile. Fun little pistols, not my first choice for grizzlies.

I bounced a 32 S&W off a fence post and raise a knuckle bump back at my forehead…always since have respected the raw power of that caliber

 

[jefair1]

Remember the time era in which the 1849 was king of the conceal carry guns was a time when the perforation by a lead bullet was a serious deterrent due to lack of medical treatment for blood poisoning and other infection .. so it was more a deterrent than a man stopper .. you may find that to get a full powder load and a conical bullet to work you will have to load the cylinder outside the gun and then install the cylinder and then cap.. any way you go it will be fun!

B

I use 00 buckshot. Its a little harder than what I cast and I think it hits harder.

 

[Pete453]

Round balls out of revolvers have some kind of magical stopping power that goes beyond penetration tests or any conventional knowledge

They flatten out in tissue and tumble around vs conicals that just plow in with a relatively straight line until they hit bone

If Skeeter says the Confederate cavalry vets loved .36 round balls vs conicals out of their Navies because they put men down better, I believe them

Not to knock Skeeter, but the conicals they were using were pretty pointy, they'd pencil through. A ball it blunter, it would swat the target. Not that I want to be shot with either. Been shot with bird shot, that was enough for me, it was a good lesson in terminal ballistics.

 

[dracer]

the first time I saw bp revolver, a friend put a kit togther this was back in the sixtys he had read about chain firer and was scard to shoot it we where out shooting so he found a big tree and shoot it I heard this big scream and he says he shot his self what happened was the ball hit the tree and bouced back and hit him in the chest luckly the tree took most of the energy and all he had was a big bruse

 

[Stantheman86]

Not to knock Skeeter, but the conicals they were using were pretty pointy, they'd pencil through. A ball it blunter, it would swat the target. Not that I want to be shot with either. Been shot with bird shot, that was enough for me, it was a good lesson in terminal ballistics.

If Kaido made a mold of his .31 version of the .36 and .44 bullet, it would be more of a "stopper" with the flat nose.

The "baby dragoon" bullets are pretty pointy, the conicals back then were basically to enable the use of nitrate cartridges.

People back then also carried stuff like S&W and Colt .22 Short pocket revolvers or little .32 short rimfires, both would probably fail to stop an angry Squirrel but people used them for defense.

I had a few S&W .32 Short break tops and I would not feel confident using that to stop an attacker, you'd probably do better with a knife. A guy in Brazil tried to murder his wife with an old .32 break top and the bullet bounced off her skull.......that's awkward

Little peashooter pocket revolvers are basically the "better than harsh language " last ditch shoot and scoot guns.

A .31 Colt would do the job as a defensive gun but I'd think a heavy wool coat might stop the bullet or ball. With full chambers of something like Swiss 3f and a ball-et you could probably match .32 H&R muzzle energy, maybe.

 

[Pete453]

Ask and you shall receive. Accurate molds, it says these are for percussion revolver. The dimensions can be adjusted to suit your gun.

 

[Pete453]

I'm thinking a 49 pocket revolver with a 6inch barrel would be the ticket with that wadcutter. It would be a fun range toy/target gun and a great small critter chaser. Uberti, got yet ears on?

 

[Stantheman86]

I'm thinking a 49 pocket revolver with a 6inch barrel would be the ticket with that wadcutter. It would be a fun range toy/target gun and a great small critter chaser. Uberti, got yet ears on?

I've seen them , made by ASM or other brands. There was a 6" Wells Fargo on GunBroker a little while back

 

[SOLANCO]

The .31 percussion revolvers were the grand Daddy of the .32 S&W Long , which was also pretty anemic but was hugely popular as a pocket revolver round well into the 1980s

You don't need "knockdown" power in a little mugger repellent, walking around gun like a .31. You just need to put a couple balls or bullets into a bad guy, and if he dies 7 days later oh well , at least he ceased his hostilities and you got back from the theater with the wife safely.

Little bullets aren't going to do much but we know this , these are self defense guns.

I'd sooner trust my NAA mini with 5 .22 Stingers in it than a .31 Pocket but technology advanced and that's what they had back then

I don't use 19th century technology to defend against 21st century threats.

 

[Stantheman86]

I don't use 19th century technology to defend against 21st century threats.

Back then, everyone was equally armed . The bad guys had cheap derringers, or knives, etc, you would have had a little pocket piece and a knife , or some other weapon

All these people on YouTube talking about using Pietta snubbies for defense, I'm like ok you're already behind the 8 ball to meth heads with Hi Points and Taurus .38 snubs

However, the local PD Facebook page posts "weapons caches" seized in drug raids and I've seen some Pietta brasser 1858 Rems in there
All the people who use percussion revolvers for home defense.....the odds are not 0 that the bad guys will whip out percussion revolvers too and you can shoot it out 1860s style hope the bad guys get cap jams

 

[Pete453]

I don't use 19th century technology to defend against 21st century threats.

Plus, poking a dirty hole in them was an almost guaranteed death sentence due to infection.

 

[Pete453]

All the people who use percussion revolvers for home defense.....the odds are not 0 that the bad guys will whip out percussion revolvers too and you can shoot it out 1860s style hope the bad guys get cap jams

 

[SOLANCO]

Plus, poking a dirty hole in them was an almost guaranteed death sentence due to infection.

Well, if he's in my face with a double stack nine, or even a little league bat, I am not waiting for infection to knock him down.

 

[Stantheman86]

Bill Hickock drops William Tutt with a .36 from his Colt Navy.

You basically just hope for the best and pray for shot placement

 

[Bruce Vanderhoofbprvan]

Acquaintance shot his .31 pocket model in a friend's basement at a log turned sideways. Ball bounced back & hit him in the forehead. Don't know if it bounced off of wood or perhaps a bullet previously imbedded because the log had been shot into before. He wasn't mortally injured, but had a knot for awhile. Fun little pistols, not my first choice for grizzlies.

Probably green wood.