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It is almost un-American to buy anything made in this country.
I was looking for an American gunmaker and don't believe there arena left. TVM perhaps.
Pedercoli (sp) are Italian.Lyman great Plains rifles are from somewhere outside these hallowed jills., Hege in Germany is priced along the lines of the humble Mercedes Benz
I looked with my inexpert fading eye through the Forum and feel we are concentrating on Tomshawks

The accursed Dutch Oven keeps making me think I\ve got an email..
I need guidance if there are any volunteers
Speak up.

Dutch Schoultz on the forum or at

[email protected]

Dutch
 
Ummmmmm......Jim Kibler's name keeps popping up. Then there's Danny Caywood. Tip Curtis' name pops up from time to time. How am I doing so far? Is this helping out any? :idunno: Otherwise, I'm not sure what you're looking for.
 
Cruzatte,
I am glad to hear that these people exist, How to get in touch?

I'm looking for an American made Hawken type rifle, 50 caliber, Peercussion. with perhaps a Green Mountain barrel.. Available within the best 3 months.

This is intended to go to a greatly improved Newbie. I don't want to scare anyone off with the mysterious Flintlock.



P'm beginning to think foreign.

Dutch
 
DUTCH:

A BETTER ROUTE MAY BE TO SEE WHO SPECIALIZES IN THE RIFLE YOU ARE LOOKING FOR AND SEE IF THEY HAVE ANY FOR SALE.

HERE IS A LIST OF MANY CONTEMPORARY GUN BUILDERS AND THEIR CONTACT INFO, JUST CLICK THE LINK:
https://www.longrifle.com/all-arti...fles,+pistols+and+fowlers&filter_16=&mode=any


HERE IS A START. I NEVER DEALT WITH EITHER OF THESE INDIVIDUALS SO I PERSONALLY CAN'T VOUCH FOR THEM, BUT THEY ARE WELL KNOWN AND THEIR WORK IS EXCEPTIONAL:


BOB BROWNER
https://www.longrifle.com/all-artisans/entry/1590/



WB SELB:
http://www.hawkenrifles.com/index.shtml
 
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Bob Browner lives in the St. Louis area and I could make arrangements to take him to Bob's home to talk to him and other member builders in the St. Louis area. Dutch, how does Tuesday evening sound?

Bob makes an excellent Hawken replica.
 
Mr. Canolli,
I am amazed at the response to my proposed competition.
It is good to see how this appeal to help the beginner and stir up interest in our besieged sport
I am having trouble finding a sheet of paper short enough to list theem all but here goes
My first responder with a mentor from Iowa.
My second responder offered to donate $20 toward the purchase of the rifle prize
My third responder doesn't exist.
The avidity on my part to select the appropriate prize has faded a bit.

There was a poem about presenting an idea and how the idea spread The poem went,
I shot an arrow in the air.
Where it landed I know not where.

My poem might go like this:

I shot an arrow in the air.
That son of a gun got stuck up there.

I had concerns about limiting the list of entries to 20 or so. I don't see that that will be a problem.


Rhank Mr. Canolli, I willkeep you list of gunmakers in reserve should a miracle occur.

Dutch
 
Monsieur le Grenadier.
My need for a fine rifle to be awarded as a prize is fading rapidly
I have a similar feeling of the young boy who broke wind during a lulling the Sunday sermon..

I hope I will be forgiven for the disturbance.

Dutch Schoultz
 
I could not get to sleep last night as mu so calledanalyrical mind pondered the events, or Non events of the past several days. I forgot my audience, or the nature of the congregation.
In the 70's and 80's, 50 and 40 years ago the black powder group was composed of all ages from a few in their twenties all the way up to the occasional 90.

It was composed of a large group of folks with the enthusiasms of youth,
Those folks have been weaned away by the allegedly "Easier" Not really ML rifles developed, I believe, by the late Mr. Kniht as an end run to allow center fire riflemen a chance to intrude on the hunting seasons set aside for true muzz;e;oaders.
Another larger segment have been lured away by the Hand Held computer games.
So what's left?
Just us old timers with a few noble exceptions who have learned all the risks of venturing into competitions..

I was able to cancel the order for 300 targets I hoped to employ and I had not quite got the order fopr the "Grain Scale" I was going to use so that all contestants would have the same size and weight of .50 balls..

I had a lot of mental fun setting up some of the rules and requirements

What did surprise me me was the avalanche of opportunities for me to spend big bucks on a nice rifle.

I think I am a man of the pat and should go back to making turtle and/or fish flasks for powder and ball carriers. I AM NOT SURE I CANSEE WELL ENOUGH.

THANKS TO ALL FOR THE UGGESTIIONS AND HELP.

DUTCH SCHOULTZ
 
There are dozens of full-time muzzleloading gunmakers in the U.S. today, amongst the many amateurs (many of whom rival the best of the best). Mike Brooks, Mike Miller, David Price, Ed Wenger, Jim Kibler, Roy Stroh, Mike Gahagan, Nathan Stephenson, Tim Williams, Chris Immel, Dave Person, Jack Brooks, Judd (and Jesse) Brennan, Mark Wheland, Clay Smith, Nate McKenzie, Mitch Yates, Eric Kettenburg, Brian LeMaster, James Rogers, the House brothers, Eric von Aschwege”¦ These are just a few of the more well-known fellas. The American Longrifle Forum is a good congregation of some of those folks, some of whom post on here as well.
It’s something of a catch 22 in that the general public doesn’t really know these guys exist because most don’t really mass market themselves in the modern sense of social media, etc. and most don’t need to do that sort of marketing because they already have more work than they know what to do with. Jim Kibler is one man who is looking like he will bridge the gap between traditional, hand-made gunmaking and serious business acumen with his kits. Who knows, one day he may offer a kit in just about every style we can imagine (he’s got two so far).
I know there are guys who build hawkens, but I don’t know who they are. I’m familiar with builders who mostly work on earlier gun styles.
 
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One of the things I love about this avocation is that it is preserving crafts and skills of times past. Seeing and learning those skills gives an appreciation of where our country came from. :patriot:
 

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