UPS has outdone itself. I'm actually impressed by how massive of a failure this is, even Kiblers famous crates are no match! INSURE YOUR STUFF FOLKS!

[mikesto44]

We had a folding ladder delivered. The card board box was all tore up. Tire marks the full length on both sides. I think some idiot thought their was a gun inside. Even though the picture of the ladder was marked on the outside. Luckily the UPS store care of it. I swear if they think theirs a chance of a gun in the box. They purposely try to destroy it...!

 

[N.Y. Yankee]

Obviously somebody in the delivery chain was anti gun.

I was going to say the same thing. How could anyone claim that was some sort of accident? That was deliberate as the day is long. Most likely an anti-gun whack job used a forklift or could have been a kid that was hating on the world but whatever, it dang sure was no accident.

Is there a way to insure for double the actual cost and maybe print a sales receipt showing a doubled price for proof?

Something needs to be done about this type of thing.

 

[Rebel bull]

I was going to say the same thing. How could anyone claim that was some sort of accident? That was deliberate as the day is long. Most likely an anti-gun whack job used a forklift or could have been a kid that was hating on the world but whatever, it dang sure was no accident.

Is there a way to insure for double the actual cost and maybe print a sales receipt showing a doubled price for proof?

Something needs to be done about this type of thing.

they call that insurance fraud not that I disagree with you

 

[PathfinderNC]

It was ruined by UPS deliberately

 

[emery]

I just sent a long rifle I built to Montana. I built the crate myself and package it so it would not move in the box. I also sent it UPS and insured it for $3500 but if it had gotten damaged there is no way I could replace it without hours of work and searching for wood and parts. Lucky though, it got there all in one piece and my customer was pleased.

 

[ronaldrothb49]

Had one a while back from the USPS with parts for an unmentionable. The box had been ripped open and then half assed taped back up. All the empty packaging for the individual parts was in the box but the actual parts were missing.

 

[Bucolic Buffalo]

Someone please explain what I am looking at. Is that two separate Kibler-style boxes that have somehow been joined? Or extended, to ship a longrifle without pulling the pins?

I understand the frustration. The anger. I have said it in several threads here. All our package services throw packages. All our package services do, at times, walk on packages. They get handled by automated equipment and typically college age workers loading trucks, cages, baskets.

The more odd shaped a package is, the more heavy it is, the more likely some event will happen. If it's not a single enclosed package, box, or crate, but actually two. Then that increases the odds of some event happening.

And worst yet. Murphy's Law means that if something bad happened to the first package, it increases the odds of a second "event". I spent a career shipping, or around shipping. There were times I just shook my head at the massive amounts of stupidity that I saw the results of.

 

[LonestarShootR]

they call that insurance fraud not that I disagree with you

If you are paying the premium for higher value why is that fraud?


Say you have a $3000 item being shipped and insure it for $6000, you are paying the premium for the higher value.
The higher premium covers the increase in value doesn't it?

 

[Capnball]

Unbelievable.
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Wow, that looks personal! Really! Somebody doesn't like you or guns!

 

[Zapadach]

Those sorting centers have cameras everywhere! They should find the culprit and fire that scoundrel! I am waiting on a Fowler from Kibler and this thread nauseates me!

It seems to me, if you really want your purchases to be safe, you would have to make the journey and pick them up yourself these days. You should hear the horror stories coming out of the fed-ex warehouses in southern California.

 

[TrophyGuy]

Those sorting centers have cameras everywhere! They should find the culprit and fire that scoundrel! I am waiting on a Fowler from Kibler and this thread nauseates me!

All of shipping industry copes with this problem by accepting damage claims on a certain percentage of their volume and spreading the cost to everyone else, much like retailers tolerating shrinkage (shoplifting). Cheaper than correcting operations. All institutions enjoy immunity from accountability. Sad.

 

[Jappo]

Ive seen barrels bent. I couldn't bend one if I tried. Without heat anyway.

 

[RobertIN]

Ive seen barrels bent. I couldn't bend one if I tried. Without heat anyway.

I'm hopeful it isn't bent, we shall see. If it's just the stock that's ruined I may be able to salvage everything else and use it elsewhere. Shipping companies are such a hassle I don't know that I'll ever ship anything fragile and valuable again. I'll make a significant drive to do it my damn self.

 

[deerstalkert]

Someone please explain what I am looking at. Is that two separate Kibler-style boxes that have somehow been joined? Or extended, to ship a longrifle without pulling the pins?

pulling the pins on a long rifle just makes it more vulnerable. the length is still there unless you are talking a half stock.
I am extremely hesitant to ship anything anymore. that said I have to figure out how to get the latest build to Ohio. maybe one last road trip?

 

[RobertIN]

Someone please explain what I am looking at. Is that two separate Kibler-style boxes that have somehow been joined? Or extended, to ship a longrifle without pulling the pins?

I understand the frustration. The anger. I have said it in several threads here. All our package services throw packages. All our package services do, at times, walk on packages. They get handled by automated equipment and typically college age workers loading trucks, cages, baskets.

The more odd shaped a package is, the more heavy it is, the more likely some event will happen. If it's not a single enclosed package, box, or crate, but actually two. Then that increases the odds of some event happening.

And worst yet. Murphy's Law means that if something bad happened to the first package, it increases the odds of a second "event". I spent a career shipping, or around shipping. There were times I just shook my head at the massive amounts of stupidity that I saw the results of.

That is a standard kibler box, pins pulled, and components packed in exactly the same manner they are shipped from Jim. All screws in the lid. The only alteration is the additional plastic wrap I put around it to hold the lid on in the event that all of the screwed somehow failed.

I'm completely at a loss as to how the shear force was applied causing such a clean break.