used shooting patch inspection

[mattio]

I thought of a question I wanted to ask. When I look at my used patches what am I looking for? I've read some mentions of burnt up patches. I was shooting .60grFF RB the other day the patches looked pretty good a tad burnt, couple holes. Thanks
Matt

 

[gordy]

Two of the things to look for are what You found.Burnt spots and holes.The holes can be from shap edges in new bores or burn through from the powder charge.60 grs. shouldn't burn out the patch if it is thick enough and has good weave.depending on the weapon,as the powder charge is increased,many use a second patch or a wad under the ball patch.Even the lube used can make a difference in burn-out.A wellfitted strong patch should have a dark circle and some short streaks where it fit in the groves.With "Hot" loads and no buffer sometimes all You find is a scorched "ring"of fabric.Never use patch material with manmade materials such as rayon or nylon Etc.Pillow ticking seems to be the preferred material on the Forum.Leather works well but few folks use it anymore.

 

[mattio]

Thanks just what I wanted to know. Didn't think it would take long. :thumbsup: u da man..... Matt

 

[gordy]

Glad I could be of some help.I'mcertain You'll get more and better responses to Your question.Reading the patches is important in working up the best loads for hunting and/or target work.Good luck.

 

[swoter]

Lower right is good, other 3 are bad.

 

[revehuntsman]

Just got a Lyman Great Plains .54 at auction. took it to the range and found it had bad blowby at 80 gr. ff., .530 swaged ball and .015 pre-lubed patch (Bore Butter). Hard to get it to print in the black at 50 yards. Then I put an overpowder wad behind the patch. Not only did that clean up the blowby, I shot the center out of the 10-ring with three shots! Hope this helps.
pastoremet

 

[roundball]

Just got a Lyman Great Plains .54 at auction. took it to the range and found it had bad blowby at 80 gr. ff., .530 swaged ball and .015 pre-lubed patch (Bore Butter). Hard to get it to print in the black at 50 yards. Then I put an overpowder wad behind the patch. Not only did that clean up the blowby, I shot the center out of the 10-ring with three shots! Hope this helps.
pastoremet

OP wads provide an incredible benefit to powerful powder charges...I use them with every hunting load I have, regardless of caliber
:front:

 

[dispatch 510]

Can someone give me a good source for over the powder wad. I would like to try them in my renegade.thanks in advance.

 

[roundball]

Can someone give me a good source for over the powder wad. I would like to try them in my renegade.thanks in advance.

Well, many BP suppliers carry some brand or another...for example, the advertiser at the top of this forum had them listed last time I checked a few weeks ago...the most popular seem to be those made by Oxyoke, injected with borebutter, but they're becoming more scarce due to Oxyoke falling on tough times, being bought out this summer, etc.

NOTE: RMC bought the rights to the Oxyoke brand name and is gearing up equipment wise with plans to restore production by the end of this year.

Some places to try:
Thompson Center
The Possibles Shop
RMC Sports
October Country

 

[shaggyshooter]

OK,I,m a newbee .From what I can tell O/P wad,s are a solid type wad . From what I can tell my .50 cal is a @38 GA,.I have a problem with BAD BURNING of the patch. I have try,d everything I can,differnt powder,patch,cleaning, bore lube,ETC,ETC,I don,t like to half a..... thing,s, but,THERE,S A WAR ON. I have never seen a 38 GA shot shell. Would a 20 GA do, or a wonder lube patch waded up under the main PBR work. shaggyshooter EASTERN ARMY. UNDER THE COMMAND OF GENERAL MUSKETMAN. GENERAL SIR ,IF MY HAWKIN,S FAIL,S ME ,I HAVE A FRIEND WHO LIVE,S WHERE THE SEMINOLE WAR,S TOOK PLACE IN THE 1800,S.HE,S A GUNSMITH. SOME DEER MEAT OR HOG SHOULD DO TO SECURE A FINE WEAPON FOR THE CAUSE. shaggy :blue:

 

[roundball]

OK,I,m a newbee .From what I can tell O/P wad,s are a solid type wad . From what I can tell my .50 cal is a @38 GA,.I have a problem with BAD BURNING of the patch. I have try,d everything I can,differnt powder,patch,cleaning, bore lube,ETC,ETC,I don,t like to half a..... thing,s, but,THERE,S A WAR ON. I have never seen a 38 GA shot shell. Would a 20 GA do, or a wonder lube patch waded up under the main PBR work. shaggyshooter EASTERN ARMY. UNDER THE COMMAND OF GENERAL MUSKETMAN. GENERAL SIR ,IF MY HAWKIN,S FAIL,S ME ,I HAVE A FRIEND WHO LIVE,S WHERE THE SEMINOLE WAR,S TOOK PLACE IN THE 1800,S.HE,S A GUNSMITH. SOME DEER MEAT OR HOG SHOULD DO TO SECURE A FINE WEAPON FOR THE CAUSE. shaggy :blue:

You don't want any plastic wads of course as they'll melt...you're trying to establish a "firewall" between the raging inferno of the burning powder and the cloth patch around the ball.

Look for some .50cal wads...like Oxyoke's wonderwads, or other brand of .50cal wool wad, vegetable wad, etc.

If you don't have wads, the easiest quick test is to take a pair of spare lubed patches and seat them down over the powder as a set, before seating a patch ball normally...they'll act as a firewall and you'll know immediately if fire has been destroying your main patch.

 

[shaggyshooter]

Thank,s Roundball. I am going to the range sunday,if the weather is good.(SOUTH FLORIDA) I alway,s use OX-YOKE PATCH. I will try it for sure....THANK,S :master: :master: :master:

 

[walruskid1]

i use a patch of a size that i don't need anymore,( sold the rifle etc.) under my patched round ball. i just fold it up on top of the powder, then seat my prb. keeps the 777 from blasting the hell out of the patch. :m2c:

 

[roundball]

i use a patch of a size that i don't need anymore,( sold the rifle etc.) under my patched round ball. i just fold it up on top of the powder, then seat my prb. keeps the 777 from blasting the hell out of the patch. :m2c:

I've done that too...one time I had a bag of small, thin leftover .010" .45cal patches, so I would seat 4-5 of them down at a time...looked like I was shooting confetti when I'd take a shot

 

[revehuntsman]

I use the felt wads purchased in bulk from Cabela's.