used Traditions

[ezyed]

This is the second try at making a post. Have a oppertunity to purchase a traditions charls daly 50 cal.rifle.It looks new,no scratches on the stock or barrel. Is not made as good as a T.C. but serviceable. Has a 21" barrelv marked 1-20 which I assume is the twist. The problem is that the nipple is broken off and the bolster screw is buggered up. If I purchas the one I am sure that I can doo all the repair work myself. I could not find any thing about this model on the website. I assume that this was not a expensive rifle but would make a good carry rifle.(I sit in a blind).
Any I deas on the value of this gun???
Thank you for any answers.
Ed

 

[Rogue River]

I can't really say what the value is but from your description I wouldn't pay more than a $100.00 tops! You should check the bore out also! The twist is too fast for a PRB and the barrel is pretty short!

 

[Zonie]

Just my opinion but the Charles Daly guns are sorta lower middle class guns.
If you can get it working it should do what you want however, if the rifling twist is indeed 1-20 and the grooves are very shallow like a modern rifle it was meant to shoot modern projectiles.

It may, or it may not shoot patched roundballs accurately with that twist.

Actually the problem with many of these guns isn't the speed of the twist. It is the shallow grooves which don't get a good grip on a cloth patch unless the ball/patch combination is very tight.

The broken nipple and boogered up screw will give you a very good argument to knocking the price down REAL LOW.

If you get this gun you may want to read Deano's post about removing his broken nipple. It is in the Gun Builders Bench area of the forum.

 

[ezyed]

Just to let you know I did purchase the rifle and a flint lock pistol kit from the guy for $100.00.

I already have the drum with the broken nipple off.Tomorrow I will try to find my left handed drill bit and with the drill press turned by hand I should get the nipple out. If that does not work a new one is less than $10.00
I realize that the rifle is not the quality of my T.C. but we all need a beater when some one wants to shoot a muzzle loader.
Going to check on how to remove the nipple as you suggest befor I start the job.
dThank you for such a good site
Ed

 

[Rogue River]

You can't get hurt there, good buy :thumbsup:

 

[Pork Chop]

All of the Charles Daly muzzleloaders that I have seen are actually rebranded Investarm rifles. That company makes the Lyman rifles.

 

[cowpoke1955]

Great buy! When you get that rifle (carbine) up and running, why not try some T/C Maxi Balls, Lee REAL Bullets or some Lyman Plains Bullets? With that fast twist it just might be a tack driver with conicals. Let us know how that flintlock pistol turns out. Congradulations :thumbsup:

 

[Dave Rosenthal]

Instead of putting a round peg (in this case a round ball :haha: ) in a square hole, use the force and shoot them Maxi's :thumbsup: . Just make sure that you use regular lead remover such as Shooter's Choice or "Old #9" to get the lead out of the groves with a good brushing! You might just have a "diamond in the rough"!

Enjoy it!

Dave
Hurler of huge chunks of hot lead (Maxi's) :haha:

 

[larry wv]

I use a cut off Renagade in .54 (about 21-22) in real tight brush and such. Short guns are nice for quick shots. Don't think it carrys much easier in thick stuff but is quick to point. Had a Charles Daly once it was an ok gun .50 cal. Larry Wv

 

[ezyed]

Pork Chop, It defenetly is marked Traditions, Jeep River CT.Also made in Spain.
Thank you for your comment
Ed