Using Felt Wads For 12 Guage

[Landngroove]

I have a 12 guage Pedersoli SxS that has screw in choke tubes. Rather than have to unscrew the choke tubes to load with cardboard, and fiber wads, I am going to try Ox Yoke felt wads, as they will squeeze thru the full choke tubes. Do these felt wads work as well as the old standard cardboard, and fiber?

 

[roundball]

I have a 12 guage Pedersoli SxS that has screw in choke tubes. Rather than have to unscrew the choke tubes to load with cardboard, and fiber wads, I am going to try Ox Yoke felt wads, as they will squeeze thru the full choke tubes. Do these felt wads work as well as the old standard cardboard, and fiber?

OxYoke is all that I've used in my Navy Arms SxS .12ga...mine is a cylinder bore, but the wads do what I expected them to do...I use two at a time

 

[papellet]

New to BP shotguns but the Ox-yoke wads is what I use because my new englander has the choke tubes as well. The manual told me to put two over the powder and one over the shot and seems to work fine. I think RMC bought out ox-yoke and i get mine from them at[url] rmcsports.com[/url]

 

[paulvallandigham]

Yes, they work fine. Check it with a chronograph. If you have card wads, just push one card through the choke sideways aligned at 12 and 6 o'clock to your muzzle, and then push the second one past your choke alighed at 9 and 3 o'clock. Once past the choke, you can push the card wads down on the powder, and the head of your rammer will flatten out the cards, except for the crease in the edge. As long as the two cards don't have the edges aligned in the same place in the barrel, they will seal the powder gases, and give you fine performance. Cards are a lot cheaper than the Wonder wads.

 

[ffffg]

its best to break the back of the nitro card (bend a little) to load over powder with choke.. then lube the bore with two wonder wads when using tighter than cylinder bore choke.. this will give competition quality loads.. yes stack nitro cards if your getting blow by.. you need to pattern / pattern/ pattern to get best loads.. make sure your not getting blow by on 1st, 5th, 10 th, 15th and 20th firing of test load on paper.. i have had problem with under sized nitro cards, and had to make my own years ago out of stacking punched out picture framing material over under sized nitro card.. dave.

 

[Riley/MN]

OxYoke is all that I've used in my Navy Arms SxS .12ga...mine is a cylinder bore, but the wads do what I expected them to do...I use two at a time

Roundball, I don't remember you ever sayin... Have you ever taken a turkey with that gun (I have same gun)?

Do you use a shot cup over the wads?

-Riley

 

[roundball]

OxYoke is all that I've used in my Navy Arms SxS .12ga...mine is a cylinder bore, but the wads do what I expected them to do...I use two at a time

Roundball, I don't remember you ever sayin... Have you ever taken a turkey with that gun (I have same gun)?
Do you use a shot cup over the wads?
-Riley

Never turkey hunted with it...only used it a couple times and shot a few Doves...excellent shotgun but I haven't used it since I switched to Flintlocks...I'm using Flint .54 and .62 cal smoothbores instead...probably sell the Navy Arms caplock

 

[Rebel]

I have the same gun and i took a Tom with it last spring. I used 95 grs Pyrodex RS, an overpowder wad, heavy Steel shot plasric shot cup(that i cut down to hold 110 grs or 1 1/2 oz of shot), 1 1/2 oz of #5 lead shot, and an overshot card wad. It did a number on him but he was only about 18-20 yds away when i shot.

 

[dougshoot]

I get my 12 gauge wads for my TC New englander from Eastern Maine Shooting Supplies Inc.
1-207-943-8808
They are in Milo Maine just up the street from the old closed oyo building. I am told that when oxyoke closed the employee,s sprung into action by starting EMSS and bailed out alot of people in urgent need of supplies. (including ME) Their wads are 100 % woven wool and provide a great gas
check. I use them over powder and over the shot.

Good hunting
Doug

 

[jdixon]

The felt wads replacing the over powder cards would work. I have never tried that combination but, I suspect you are going to loose some velocity and punch - don't know just a suspicion. I have been seriously working on a load in the same gun you have but in 10 ga. By far the best load that I have found for pattern density is two hard over powder cards, a 1" X .80" diameter Styrofoam cushion, and two thin over shot curds. This load is giving me as much as 25% of the shot pellets inside of a 10" circle at 30 yrds (i.e. a 1.5 oz. load of #6's I am getting between 75 and 85 pellets inside the 10" circle). Eighty percent of the total shot load can be found inside of a 30" X 30" square at the same distance. These figures are through a XF choke. The Styrofoam cushion is what is making the difference. The exact same load using a thin Ox-Yoke cushion or even two will only yield 50% of the performance it will with the Styrofoam wad. Loading the felt wads through the choke tube is fine if you are target shooting or duck hunting where taking the choke out each time would be a pain. (You should be able to load hard over powder cards through Modified and Improve chokes) However, for turkey hunting, this Styrofoam cushion load is the best I have found yet.

 

[roundball]

The felt wads replacing the over powder cards would work. I have never tried that combination but, I suspect you are going to loose some velocity and punch - don't know just a suspicion. I have been seriously working on a load in the same gun you have but in 10 ga. By far the best load that I have found for pattern density is two hard over powder cards, a 1" X .80" diameter Styrofoam cushion, and two thin over shot curds. This load is giving me as much as 25% of the shot pellets inside of a 10" circle at 30 yrds (i.e. a 1.5 oz. load of #6's I am getting between 75 and 85 pellets inside the 10" circle). Eighty percent of the total shot load can be found inside of a 30" X 30" square at the same distance. These figures are through a XF choke. The Styrofoam cushion is what is making the difference. The exact same load using a thin Ox-Yoke cushion or even two will only yield 50% of the performance it will with the Styrofoam wad. Loading the felt wads through the choke tube is fine if you are target shooting or duck hunting where taking the choke out each time would be a pain. (You should be able to load hard over powder cards through Modified and Improve chokes) However, for turkey hunting, this Styrofoam cushion load is the best I have found yet.

Similar results...range testing my newly jug choked .62cal yesterday, I got good patterns using OxYoke prelubed OP wads as I usually do.

But then I was shocked to find that using what I thought were just cheap 1/8" Blue & Gray unlubricated O/P fiber cards, I got even tighter patterns, most noticeably at the longer ranges of 30, 35, 40yds.

:shocked2:

 

[jdixon]

Similar results...range testing my newly jug choked .62cal yesterday, I got good patterns using OxYoke prelubed OP wads as I usually do.

But then I was shocked to find that using what I thought were just cheap 1/8" Blue & Gray unlubricated O/P fiber cards, I got even tighter patterns, most noticeably at the longer ranges of 30, 35, 40yds.

I will have to give this load a try then. Do you think that 1/8" slices of Circle Fly veggie fiber wads would work as well as the wads you are describing?

 

[jdixon]

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Similar results...range testing my newly jug choked .62cal yesterday, I got good patterns using OxYoke prelubed OP wads as I usually do.

But then I was shocked to find that using what I thought were just cheap 1/8" Blue & Gray unlubricated O/P fiber cards, I got even tighter patterns, most noticeably at the longer ranges of 30, 35, 40yds.

:shocked2: [/quote]
I will have to give this load a try then. Do you think that 1/8" slices of Circle Fly veggie fiber wads would work as well as the wads you are describing?