If you are interested Access Heritage has a good one that you only have to drill touch hole. Only 700.00
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Versatility: Single Vs Double Barrels
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Regulating is for double rifles. And regulating two rifle barrels can only be done for one, specific distance. It is the shooter's task to learn where the points of impact will be at other distances.
Sights on the Cape gun or drilling do not mean that the shotgun barrel is to be aimed. Even if the smooth barrel is soldered to a rifle it remains a shotgun, which is a gun pointed rather than aimed.
Even though I'm more interested in an original I have looked at those and the Pedersoli 20 gauge.
joevic57
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There are gunsmiths that still can "jug choke" cylinder bore shotguns I suppose. Done correctly jug choking will tighten patterns considerably, and there is no trouble loading wads and otherwise.
Barrel regulation can be an issue with a side by side.
A proper lightweight fowler or trade gun carries and points like a dream. They’ll shoot true to the sights with ball or shot.
A proper lightweight fowler or trade gun carries and points like a dream. They’ll shoot true to the sights with ball or shot.
Double barreled rifles is one of my outdoor passions, for the simple reason that two immediate shots without breaking the cheek-stock weld is the best way to hunt deer in their beds. Black powder muzzleloader, bp cartridge, modern etc are all quite fabulous. Highly recommend it
Yep done it and it works.
Solanco, This is a .45 X .45 double rifle I made and regulated to shoot one barrel on at 50 yard's and one on at 100 yard's. I worked out pretty well. But, I wouldn't do it again!
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Robby, is that red spot from sweating blood building it?
Very nice I really like itSolanco, This is a .45 X .45 double rifle I made and regulated to shoot one barrel on at 50 yard's and one on at 100 yard's. I worked out pretty well. But, I wouldn't do it again!
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Robby
I can’t believe I’ve never noticed this before!Ah but how much versatility can you afford?
Which is I think the reason why it wasn't done as much until the Industrial Revolution kicked in and dropped the price of SxS guns.
It's pretty easy, if you trust the barrel, to drop a ball down onto your shot load, and shoot at a deer. Not recommended but will work.
So yes, especially with a cylinder bore SxS, you can load the most accurate barrel with a round ball and the other barrel with shot.., or with two round ball IF you're in bear country.
HERE's the ultimate versatile SxS....
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Paints-His-Shirt-Red from the movie Jeremiah Johnson, with a smoothbore x rifle combo!
LD
I’m certain I’ve seen you speak on this before, but refresh my memory…
How has jug choking affected accuracy with round ball loads (and what was your loading process)? When you did your shot loads, were they SkyChief, homemade shot cups, etc? I’m getting my 24 gauge barrel sent off to be jug choked tomorrow
Is there a reasonable modification that could be made to overcome the double bbl regulation at different distances issue?
For example, could one silver solder a bead atop the muzzle of the round ball barrel, and tap the stock or tang (whevever alignment indicated) towards the breech, thus creating a rifle sight for that barrel? Then the center bead (if it was effective enough originally) could still be used for the shot barrel, or for both if both loaded with shot.
It might prove an unreasonable modification if the ergonomics of using such a sighting system on one side proved exceptionally difficult to master.
For example, could one silver solder a bead atop the muzzle of the round ball barrel, and tap the stock or tang (whevever alignment indicated) towards the breech, thus creating a rifle sight for that barrel? Then the center bead (if it was effective enough originally) could still be used for the shot barrel, or for both if both loaded with shot.
It might prove an unreasonable modification if the ergonomics of using such a sighting system on one side proved exceptionally difficult to master.
I saw the movie when it came out in the 1970's.... a bunch of times seen it again...,
ONLY spotted the gun about 4 years ago, as I had the movie on DVD and could slow-mo the scene. It's from the first encounter where Johnson is catching a fish or two with his hands in Winter, and looks up to see Paints-His-Shirt-Red, riding a horse, holding the SxS, with a string of about a dozen fresh fish hanging from his saddle.
Later in the movie when Bearclaw- Chris Lapp and Johnson get stopped by Indians in the woods, Paints-His-Shirt-Red talks to Lapp, and Lapp turns to Johnson and says, "You two know each other?" Johnson replies, "I seen him once". Lapp also says, "..., says you're a poor fisherman." Referring to the scene above....
LD
I remember the movie quite well. Had you not mentioned the gun, I don’t think I ever would’ve noticed
I'd love to tell you more but for vague legal reasons and hovering hawk I won't indulge.
I will say that I never tried a single ball past a jug or recessed choke but have read of many doing it successfully.
I have used the skychief load but don't really use it. Thin cards are all I carry and use or sometimes a ball of paper as wadding.
In all honesty I don't over think it, I just go shooting. The only thing I tend to stick to is less powder to shot and probably a finer grade than most would dream of.
