What is this…

[Crazybear]

Hello all, could one of you fellow shooters please tell me what this is? It came with my CVA Hawken. Thank you

 

[deerstalkert]

209 primer conversion? never seen one loose like this and never seen one live in living color!

 

[ord sgt]

It looks like a conversion. Using modern primers instead of #11 caps. Unneeded if you use regular percussion caps and have a good clear flash channel into the main charge. But some people want the latest and greatest novelty.

 

[Rudyard]

There where some nipples desighned to use modern rifle primers and this looks very like one . I forget the patent name but its early 70s at a guess . seemed a fiddly & needless affair they had a small chain if I recall correctly . Could be one of those or a varient .
Rudyard

 

[deerstalkert]

looking closely at it, it has no provision for crushing the anvil in a center fire primer. would bet it is for a 209 shotgun primer.

 

[leadhoarder]

https://www.warrencustomoutdoor.com/mag-spark.html

 

[leadhoarder]

looking closely at it, it has no provision for crushing the anvil in a center fire primer. would bet it is for a 209 shotgun primer.

It is for a 209 primer.

 

[Crazybear]

Thank you, I get great fire with the #11 caps. I have never seen one of these before.

 

[Dibbuk]

I have one. As stated, it allows you to use a large rifle or #209 primer instead of a percussion cap.

You install the lower half in the rifle, in place of a percussion nipple. You unscrew the top, put a primer in the pocket, and screw the top back on. Shoot as normal. You then remove the top half, pick out the spent primer, reload, and put a new primer in the pocket, screw the top on again, and shoot once more.

They can be slower than just using a new percussion cap, but if you are unable to find percussion caps, these nipples will allow you to keep shooting.

 

[leadhoarder]

Yeah I bought one of these when caps were unavailable so I could keep shooting if need be but I have never had to use it.

 

[Crazybear]

It has a ball end on the inside, I assume for striking the primer. Too small for a 209 primer

 

[leadhoarder]

Yeah that one is for a non shotshell primer. I knew they made them at some point but I have never seen one. They seem to be 209 only these days.

 

[Whitworth]

Ned Roberts had a device like pictured in his book about cap lock rifles, this was pre war 2.

 

[Stykbow]

Used to see those a lot around here in late 80’s and early 90’s. They were supposed to be more reliable than a standard cap. Haven’t seen one in years. They kinda faded away with the invent of the in-line.

 

[Tenring]

I have a in-line T/C shoots lights out with a 209 that takes that ignition,but on a side lock I would not use anything but a Percussion Cap and have never had a failure to fire, I wouldn’t change it out. Stay true to the nature of the rifle.

 

[Metalshaper]

called the accra-shot back in the day. took a small rifle primer and had a lil loader device/tube that stacked primers up.
different in that the primers were stacked on top of each other. Works and certainly will fire a gun. Slow and klunky to reload.

Respect Always
Metalshaper/Jonathan

 

[William Lincoln]

Looks like a primer conversion unit. At first take, it looked as it
was designed for a rod end etc Really could not judge the size
without a comparison item in the pic

 

[Howard Pippin]

I bought one of these when I first got into muzzleloading, because I had quite a few small rifle primers, I've just never been inclined to use it, and I guess is still in my possible container.

 

[Crazybear]

It threads into my rifle, I just do not know what primer it uses. No worries as I will stick to my #11 caps.

 

[Stykbow]

It threads into my rifle, I just do not know what primer it uses. No worries as I will stick to my #11 caps.

The one you have there uses small rifle primers as @Howard Pippin mentioned.