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Cherokee Jim

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Howdy, just got my first flinter. It's custom made and supposed to be 36 caliber. When I went to load it I found the the .350 round balls to be way too small. I was using .018 TC patches.
Do I need to be using .375 balls. Any advice appreciated.
 
If you are not sure of the caliber, measure the bore diameter at the muzzle with a caliper. That will tell you if it is a .36 or maybe a .40 cal. If it is indeed a .36 cal, a .350 ball with a .015 lubed patch should fit the bore just about right. At least give a good place to start working up a load. If it is a .40 cal, I would try a .390 ball and .015 patch. I shoot 30 grains of three F out of my .36 cal PLR with the .350 ball and .015 patch. I can shoot one on top of the other at 25 yds with it.

HH 60
 
It may be a 40 I Don't have a set of calipers but I patched a 38 special round and it seemed to be about right. The balls I am using are Hornady 36 caliber .350 round balls.
 
Don't forget, a 38 Special shoots a .357 diameter bullet. The outside of the mouth of the .38 case is about .38 in diameter.
 
In my .36 cal. flinter with a green mountain barrel I use .360 balls with a .018 patch. That sounds impossible, but it works. I have heard green mountain barrels run a little big, so that may explain it. But generally a .350 ball is right for a .36 cal. :thumbsup:

Hope this helps, Jim/OH :hatsoff:
 
CJ: i'm shootin a 360rb with a 010 patch out of my douglas xx. Just tried to put a 357hp in the muzzle and it falls in to the case mouth and stops there.
 
Any machine shop, and most general auto repair shops have calipers. Most of the guys are into guns, as well. I suspect they will gladly measure the bore for you, if they get to look at your gun.

Calipers can be bought for less than $30.00. They measure both inside, and outside dimensions. A Dial Caliper can be had from many of the suppliers listed under " Links" up under " Member Resources". Look at MidSouth, Midway USA, Track of the Wolf, Brownell's and compare prices. These are sold much cheaper than micrometers. If you have a Harbor Freight store in your area, check them also for prices on calipers.
 
Cherokee Jim said:
It may be a 40 I Don't have a set of calipers but I patched a 38 special round and it seemed to be about right. The balls I am using are Hornady 36 caliber .350 round balls.



It sounds as though it is a .40 cal, but you really do need to be sure. Even a custom made gun has a barrel with the caliber stamped on it somewhere. If you pull the barrel from the stock, it may be stamped on the underneath. :hmm:

HH 60
 
You didn't state what barrel brand it has. If it is a Goodoien barrel it is a .38 cal & thus would use a .375 ball & a .015 patch for a snug fit. Or that is what mine take anyway.

IMHO, It is hard to accurately measure a bore with a dial caliper. Having 2 lands exactly opposite to get an accurate measurement usually doesn't happen.

Keith Lisle
 
Come on, Keith! If you have a barrel with an EVEN number of lands and grooves, you have lands that are OPPOSITE each other.

On the other hand, if you have a barrel with an ODD number of lands and grooves, you will NEVER have lands that are opposite each other!

Because MOST modern barrel makers want NO run-out, they either plumb bore the barrels, and put the flats on after the bore is drilled, or regrind the flats to match the line of the bore After boring an octagon barrel.

Either way, for barrels with Odd Numbers of lands and grooves, you can measure the bore diameter by measuring the thickness of the barrel from an outside flat to the nearest land. Multiply that measurement by 2, to get an "artificial" idea of the barrel's thickness on opposite sides, and then subtract that sum from the width of the barrel ATFs. You may not get the Actual bore diameter within 10,000ths of an inch, but you should be within .001" of actual dimension. AND, I concede that this is not easily done if the outside of the barrel is round, rather than octagon. :shocked2: :surrender:

Most machine shops have barrel gauges, and can measure your bore diameter for you usually for a small cost, but sometimes at no cost to you at all. They consider this small kind of service a "Loss leader" ( in sales parlance) that will have you either taking other "real" business" to them in the future, or referring friends to the business.

You also can "slug" a barrel, and use outside micrometers, and barrel gauges to measure the bore diameter off the soft lead slug that emerges from your barrel.
 
Simple way to measure bore size is to make a "plug gauge" Just take a wooden dowel rod over the size of the bore, place it in a drill (hand or drill pres) and sand the diameter to whatever size just fits in and then measuere the dowel.I often make brass plug gauges on my metal lathe to check odd number land barrels. :hmm:
 
:bow: Thank you Paul for that revelation........ :rotf: :rotf:

If we/he KNEW what barrel he had, maybe we would know the configuration of the bore & could tell him what it is, & know IF it was easy to measure the bore with a dial caliper.

If it was Easy & he HAD a dial caliper & he KNEW how to measure it, he wouldn't be asking us, now would he ? :idunno:

Keith Lisle
 
Keith, I was not trying to be critical of your advice. I thought it just came out a bit odd.

People either have to own tools, or have friends who do. I gave him multiple ways to solve the problem.

I have had tools all my life, and thought it very odd when friends in the neighborhood didn't. It wasn't until I was in college that I learned how " ODD" I was raised. I knew lots of kids my age whose fathers had shops in their basements or garages, or both. When I got to college, such kids were as rare as hen's teeth. Worse, they belittled anyone who knew how to fix his own car, or do anything with tools. I did not mention that I worked on guns- I didn't want to be responsible or heart attacks.
 
cherokee jim, just curious if you found out for sure what cal. you have? I have 2 36 cal. guns, both use a .350 ball and .015 to .018 patch. As a side note. The last gun I did, I ordered a 36 cal. swamped rice barrel from Chambers, got the barrel and it was marked 36 cal. but was actually a 32 cal. barrel. flinch
 
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