What's this Remington???

[Dave Wallis]

Another recent acquisition, quite unsure on this one; looks to be .44, with a 7 1/2" barrel, single action. No numbers, other than the ones shown. Right side screw heads?? Aged repro?? Missing the loader bit.

 

[Bad Karma]

Hmmm. Unless your photos are somehow distorted, it’s likely not a Remington. That grip frame is all wrong and the wood is too. Looks like beechwood. Anyway, I’d guess a copy from somewhere other than Italy.

 

[Dave Wallis]

Hmmm. Unless your photos are somehow distorted, it’s likely not a Remington. That grip frame is all wrong and the wood is too. Looks like beechwood. Anyway, I’d guess a copy from somewhere other than Italy.

My thinking as well; no number stamps on the frame under the grips and no locating pin for the grips either, (which have quite a flat profile). No markings on the brass trigger guard either. Are you aware of any copies of this gun that are not Italian? Japan? I know some models of Remingtons had screws through from the R/H side, but if you're copying/faking a gun, you'd think you'd get the screws the right way round! Screw threads are not metric.

 

[45D]

Looks like a "home project". The notches are a little "freehanded" looking.

Mike

 

[hawkeye2]

The entire frame is wrong. The top strap is too thick and the area from the top of the grips to the back of the cylinder is way off from a Remington or the average reproduction. The head of the hammer screw is way too large and the barrel markings are also wrong.

How is the timing and does it lock up properly? It would be interesting to see the internals.

 

[necchi]

A Remington-Beals Navy?

 

[Brazos John]

Navies were usually .36, weren't they?

 

[TDM]

Never seen that frame design or grip design before.

 

[TDM]

After some research the loading lever and frame resemble the 1861 Remington. But the the grip is an unknown. If there's an early Beale's design that fits it I couldn't find it.

 

[hrt4me]

from where did you get this recent acquisition?

 

[PathfinderNC]

I wonder if it was a prototype?

 

[n.h.schmidt]

At the risk of being ridiculed,could this be a fake copy? Made of zinc perhaps. For a time years ago there was a company making zinc copies of famous guns.

 

[Jappo]

There’s was a Remington 58 made in Santa Barbara Spain, but it looks like any Italian made 58.

 

[Dave Wallis]

At the risk of being ridiculed,could this be a fake copy? Made of zinc perhaps. For a time years ago there was a company making zinc copies of famous guns.

it's all steel, but a relevant question.

 

[Dave Wallis]

from where did you get this recent acquisition?

From a dealer at a Militaria Fair in the UK.

 

[Dave Wallis]

Another suggestion from a retired Firearms dealer friend, is that it is a period Belgian/German copy; apparently, it's not unusual to find copies of U.S revolvers that were made in Europe, even with U.S manufacturers markings!

 

[Dave Wallis]

The entire frame is wrong. The top strap is too thick and the area from the top of the grips to the back of the cylinder is way off from a Remington or the average reproduction. The head of the hammer screw is way too large and the barrel markings are also wrong.

How is the timing and does it lock up properly? It would be interesting to see the internals.

The action seems to function quite well

 

[Jappo]

Would look good on my wall

 

[springfield art]

Weird! Let us know what you find out. Almost looks like one of those Afghan mountain- workshop guns!

 

[Stantheman86]

It could be a period knockoff, it could be a Khyber Pass bazaar gun that a soldier brought home , or smuggled home

It could be something made in a machine shop any time between 1861 and 2022

I for sure wouldn't think about touching a round off in that thing