Our cast are better because we cast them. The manufacturer cannot take the time that we do and still be productive. I don't know if you can find who makes the best. Allot would be opinion and today one company may make the best but tomorrow it could be a different company. Quality control goes back an forth according to who is running things.
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I totally disagree....have used Hornady, Speer and Remington RBs interchangeably in one rifle and never saw a difference.....and the Remingtons were slightly undersize.
MLers are tolerant of "reasonable" variations in RB dia, RB weight, and varying powder charges. Patches have to be "right".
Saying cast RBs are more accurate than swaged RBs is a biased statement not backed up w/ any evidence.
Didn't intend to start this discussion all over again, but misleading statements should be refuted....Fred
MLers are tolerant of "reasonable" variations in RB dia, RB weight, and varying powder charges. Patches have to be "right".
Saying cast RBs are more accurate than swaged RBs is a biased statement not backed up w/ any evidence.
Didn't intend to start this discussion all over again, but misleading statements should be refuted....Fred
Bet he will reject more of his own cast balls than the % he does with the swaged balls.
When I competed I rejected 20+% of my casts. The rejects were use in local matches and the good balls in national.
I won more local with sub-par balls than I did in Nationals.
Why not weigh and separate just 1 more item keeping consistency.
My reject balls were better than commercial swaged ones due o the fact my rifle liked.500 balls. Commercials were .495
When I competed I rejected 20+% of my casts. The rejects were use in local matches and the good balls in national.
I won more local with sub-par balls than I did in Nationals.
Why not weigh and separate just 1 more item keeping consistency.
My reject balls were better than commercial swaged ones due o the fact my rifle liked.500 balls. Commercials were .495
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A flyer, might just be the wind. If you think a round ball drops, just check ballistics on wind drift. I learned the importance of doping the wind shots, while shooting benchrest competition.
I must admit that I have never checked Hornady lead balls for consistent weight and the accuracy effects.
I must admit that I have never checked Hornady lead balls for consistent weight and the accuracy effects.
I don't know why swaged balls would be more variable than cast balls, if proper care is employed. A cube of say 62 grains of lead if swaged into a ball will weight 62 grains, won't it?
I know cast balls are the ultimate, but I don't want to cast lead balls for no more than I shoot.
I know cast balls are the ultimate, but I don't want to cast lead balls for no more than I shoot.
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That makes perfect sense......Because the lighter the projectile the greater the percentage of change a grain makes.....
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That is some fine shooting by your brother and yourself.
That is some fine shooting by your brother and yourself.
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I did a study of the consistency of Hornady .36 cal. balls. I measured both the weight and the diameter of three hundred sixty five balls. I used a Hornady Electronic Scale to weigh the balls and a Starrett micrometer to measure the diameter of the balls. The diameter of each ball was made tangentially to the sprue mark. I found that the average weight was 65.0 grains with a standard deviation of 0.2 grains. The lightest ball was 64.2 grains and the heaviest ball was 65.7 grains. A total range of only 1.5 grains. 11.28% weighed greater than 1 std. dev. and 9.31% weighed less than 1 std. dev. The average diameter of the balls was 0.351 inches with a std. dev. of 0.003 inches. The smallest ball measured 0.349 inches and the largest ball measured 0.355 inches. That was a total range in diameter of only .006 inches.
My decision was that the variation in weight and diameter of the balls right out of the box was less than the variation in my wibles and wobbles when I was holding my rifle. So I decided to just load and shoot them and not worry about any tiny deviations in the weight or diameter because they were too small to make any difference in my shooting.
Personally, I have never found a variation in ball weight of only a couple of grains to make any measurable difference. But, if you are a bench rest shooter, that is a whole 'nother game. Precision and absolute consistency is the name of that game.
My decision was that the variation in weight and diameter of the balls right out of the box was less than the variation in my wibles and wobbles when I was holding my rifle. So I decided to just load and shoot them and not worry about any tiny deviations in the weight or diameter because they were too small to make any difference in my shooting.
Personally, I have never found a variation in ball weight of only a couple of grains to make any measurable difference. But, if you are a bench rest shooter, that is a whole 'nother game. Precision and absolute consistency is the name of that game.
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