Who made this 1851 Navy.

[Griz44Mag]

Got this basket case from a friend at the range.
Will be needing a hand, bolt and a few screws.
The rest should be salvageable.
I could not find a makers name on it anywhere. I did find this on the cylinder.
Can anyone help ID this?

 

[hawkeye2]

The only markings that would help would be found on the barrel or frame. The only thing the cylinder markings tell us is that it's Italian. Possibly an old kit gun or one someone has removed the markings from it.

 

[Griz44Mag]

Only thing on the barrel is a serial number.
There are no markings on the frame. It's baby butt smooth with no marks at all.
The serial number is repeated on the bottom of the frame. It matches the serial number on the barrel.

So the question is - If I buy parts for a Pietta or a Uberti - will they fit on this gun?

 

[Erwan]

If it is not defarbed you must have something like that (the date of the proof mark of Gardone) somewhere on the frame...
List of the years you can find and another place the sample of the builder (all are here) : Accueil2

 

[Griz44Mag]

If it is not defarbed you must have something like that (the date of the proof mark of Gardone) somewhere on the frame...
List of the years you can find and another place the sample of the builder (all are here) : Accueil2
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I appreciate the effort, but as I already stated - there are NO OTHER MARKINGS on the gun.

 

[Griz44Mag]

Can someone with Uberti please confirm that they did not use serial numbers on their revolvers?
That will help confirm that this one is very likely made by Pieta.
Are there any other attributes that would differentiate Pieta from Uberti?

 

[Griz44Mag]

I ran across a video that shows the barrels from both.
The Pieta rifling is clockwise (from the muzzle view) and the Uberti is counter clockwise.
If that has been historically correct - this one has to be a Pietta.

 

[Griz44Mag]

I have confirmed this to be a very early Pieta.
The nipples from my 1858 Pieta fit it perfectly.
Parts ordered from Dixie have shipped and are now at the mercy of the USPS.

 

[Griz44Mag]

Well, still not sure of the manufacturer.
Some of the Pietta screw set screw will fit, some will not.
I also found out that the cylinder that was with the gun is likely not the one that came with it.
After spending 2 hours reducing the Pieta hand to actually fit (pivot shaft too big, hand too long and too wide) and replacing other parts,
When I mounted the cylinder and put the wedge in, it all bound up between the cylinder and the barrel and frame.
So - back to properly fitting the cylinder. Another hour and a half of filing and fitting.
FINALLY got it all back together - only to discover the bolt\trigger spring did not reach the trigger shelf.
I did some heating, bending re-hardening, tempering and now have that taken care of.
I did order a new spring and just in case - a new trigger.
Another week delay of course will now happen.
Everything is functioning correctly now.
The new new set of nipples, the .375 ball mold are on the way.
I will admit that the gun was a real basket case, but I also got a great deal of satisfaction in going through it and saving it.
It's old and still mostly a mystery on it's origin.
The only part that I know is Pieta is the cylinder - which I also know is not original.